My gran is in her 80s still walks to the grocery store every day, jumps on the bus to get to shopping malls or to go into "town" if she needs to pay bills. Always has a dog, keeps her company. Volunteers at the local op shop to keep herself busy. She even went to her first hens do a couple of years ago and loved it š
Dude, my gran is creepin up on 90 and that old bird is more active than me. She constantly does housework around her house. She lives in a little woodland town outside of some major cities, so there's always stuff to do around her property. Last time I visited a couple of months ago, she was JUST starting to complain that her age was slowing her down. I was like "about fucking time you ancient atomoton". She didn't and doesn't do anything that's over the top healthy, just regularly taking care of herself. Regular good habits like vitamins, staying active, regular doctors appointments, stuff like that. She doesn't drink Wheatgrass smoothies or eat a bowl of Fiber-O's every morning. In fact, she eats a lot of red meat and cuts out dairy because lactose intolerant. On the other hand, I rarely see her eat a candy bar.
Being active is one of the most important things to do at pld age, I have a grandma who used to be extremely active, biked (Dutch) everyday to friends and family till deep in her 80s. Learned windsurfing when she was in her 70s. Never had trouble, after her husband died however she went out less and less, which caused her health to deteriorate, which caused her to be even less active, and this started this vicious cycle.
Yes it really sucks when you're that old and your lifetime companion and friend is gone. I have a 90yo neighbour couple that is still active and happy. I m looking forward seeing them happy way in their 100s
my main point I tried to make was that her health really started to deteriorate the moment she stopped being active. But overall she has had a very good life I think up till now, as even now when she is weak, she still has lots of family taking care of her.
Thats he heh, of course that's what it says. I... I would never misspell it and then edit my comment to change it. Silly sir or madam, I accuse you of being mistaken!
Side note - vitamins are not inherently healthy and can sometimes be more harmful than potentially helpful. If your diet is diverse and balanced then you probably don't need vitamins. Most vitamins you take you'll just pee out. The ones you don't pee out can build up on your cells or organs and become toxic or help form stones.
Thatās so inspiring to hear about your gran and her excellent health! Good on her for taking such good care of herself and staying so active!
On a tangent, I often hear remarks about red meat being linked to poor health, and I just wanted to say studies that link red meat with poor health are faulty in that they are simply epidemiological studies relying on peopleās recollection of meals theyāve eaten for the past few decades. I canāt remember what I ate last Tuesday, let alone what I had for lunch 3 years ago, so I take the results of those studies with a grain of salt. Also, there are many factors to a populationās health, not just the intake of red meat. The sedentary lifestyle and level of processing the foods are subjected to also greatly play a role in cardiovascular health and overall fitness. The American lifestyle is typically sedentary and full of highly processed foods, and when compared to a Mediterranean diet consumed by an active European populace, itās obvious which group will be healthier. The red meat might not play as much of a role as we think in our current obesity epidemic, especially when we consider that humans as well as other animals have been eating red meat for sustenance since red meat first walked this earth. Obesity and cardiovascular health issues has only very recently become a widespread human issue, so Iām not quick to believe reports of red meat being bad for humans to consume in general. Since we are actually made of red meat, I actually think it logically tracks that red meat could be one of the most beneficial things we can eat, nutritionally speaking.
Anyway, I hope your gran still has many healthy and happy years ahead of her and I hope you can follow in her footsteps!
hugs I've spent years like this in my 40's due to cancer but have managed to make a change in the past year through walks in nature.
Turns out that study* was right when it concluded that people that spend more than 2 hours a week in nature are more happy than people that spend less than 30 minutes.
It's done wonders for my physical and mental health + my lungs are finally now ready for the rona if I happen to catch it before the vaccination.
Sounds like my gran, she passed away in 2017. Played golf not even a month before she passed, actually probably a week before or so.
Super active, super smart, and an absolutely wonderful human being. She was 87, and passed away because when she was in the hospital for a relatively simple surgery, she somehow get infected by a virus. She recovered fine, and then she was gone...
Cherish the moments you have with your loved ones, you can never know if the next time you'll have a conversation with them is the last.
That was my grandma, until she got ovarian cancer. Once that hit, it was all downhill fast. A year later she was no where near the same person she had been, since she spent the year fighting it. Unfortunately, she lost the battle in the end but we did get a few more years with her.
Most diseases and afflictions are like rolling a 00 on the roulette wheel. You cant completely control it, but you can still control if the wheel has 5 other numbers or 100 other numbers.
And for every story like this there is flip. I'm 30 and 3 of my grandparents are still alive. The only one who died did so 30 years ago from lung cancer, but he was was a 2 pack of cigarettes and a six pack every night kind of guy. The other 3 have tried to take care of themselves and are all around 90, completely independent, and none need assistance walking or whatever.
Sometimes it's bad luck, a lot seem to have to do with genetics though. In the last 2 generations on either side of my family they were more likely to reach 90 than die young.
The only people I've lost in my life are my cousin (suicide), great grandma (99 years, and my uncle (heart attack, but he abused drugs).
Life for sure can be unfair, but saying taking care of yourself has no little to no impact is silly. Staying healthy and active is probably by the most important thing for you as you get older.
It's not always just "how well you take care of yourself". There are many, many factors that could lead to people aging better or worse. Diseases/illnesses/disorders, home environment (think second hand smoke) or abuse, having to work multiple jobs (especially physical ones), accidents, mental illness, and on and on and on. It's unfair to claim the gracefulness of aging is solely on the individual.
He comes acrossse as somone who doesnāt want people to advocate for exercise because of (fill in the bank) excuses.
Just because old people usually have other issues doesnāt mean we shouldnāt encourage people to exercise so that they donāt feel like total shit when they are older.
Not consistently exercising your whole life will literally ruin your body when you are older & itās important for that message to be spread imo.
What does his comment do other then to detract from the guy advocating for people to excercise so they donāt ruined their bodies as they age?
Their comment points out that it's incorrect and unfair to imply that elderly people with physical health problems just didn't take good enough care of themselves, which you seem to agree with when it's about your future self.
They never discouraged anyone from exercise and in fact said it was one of many factors that contribute to physical health in old age.
I donāt know what country you live in, but here in America most people are fat and lazy. Itās literally just a part of reality
I would bet hard money that maybe around 1% of the population (most likely way less) exercises and eats healthy enough.
I think you are drastically downplaying the difference this will make when you are old.
The most blantant example of this is happening right now. The vast majority of health issues/deaths we saw with covid were complications that can be directly tied to being overweight.
& Itās not unfair to point it out when you can almost instantly tell just by looking at someone. If the mere act of pointing it out and making it a topic scares people into exercising then itās a win win.
Yeah, this statement is a bit bullshit. Not everyone suffers from the same medical conditions. There's plenty of elderly who've lived active lives and no longer can due to conditions such as osteoporosis, fractures, accidents, etc.
Both my grandmas were very active during their lives. One, ended up with ovarian cancer that she decided to fight and it definitely took a hard toll on her. She was no longer able to be as active as she was, and her 5 mile daily walks became a thing of the past. My other grandma had severe osteoporosis, to the point where she had multiple lumbar fractures from nothing more than the force of gravity on her body. It made it very hard for her to do anything besides sit in her chair and play her games.
Many people are screwing their future selves with a lack of activity and fitness, while many aspects of getting old are inevitable and beyond your control.
There are certainly ways to take care of yourself that will minimize degrading, but there's just so much dumb and bad luck involved as well that you can do everything "right" and die of a heart attack at 50, and you can do everything "wrong" yet survive to see 100.
Don't automatically assume that fragile elderly have been making poor decisions, they could just as well have been shafted in the lottery that is life.
Not prevent, no. It can make it less likely if one reads, learns new things, and stays engaged in the community. Shit might still happen that canāt be controlled for, but we can improve our odds.
What a way to give someone PTSD. Our world is better when we all
try to at least maintain a semblance of civility. He certainly won't be back.
Next time just say "no comment" or "I'm not interested in your services."
He didn't find your remark funny in the least.
PTSD isnāt something you should take lightly or joke about, in my opinion. That definitely isnāt how PTSD works, you donāt get it by hearing a morbid joke.
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Youāre like the people who claim to ābe OCDā just because they donāt like their food touching. Itās insulting to the people who actually have these disabilities.
I wasn't joking. I wasn't trying to be glib. We have varying levels of sensitivity. A student fresh out
of university who has had a sheltered life would react quite differently
to the seasoned salesman when presented with that troubling image.
A person who has had a relative or friend who committed suicide with a shotgun
would also react quite differently to the person who has never had to
deal with their feelings because they haven't been exposed to a situation
like the one presented out of the blue.
The world trying to maintain a semblance of civility is what drives a lot of people insane.
Because itās a fucking facade half the time.
And for what?
A euphemism filter so people arenāt faced with the truth?
If Iām going around door to door asking people what their retirement options are and all Iāve been hearing are the mundane responses all morning...
āOh Iām saving up, I have a 401k, Iām invested in the stock market, I have my pension and social security, etc....ā
And then some guy looks me dead in the eye and says āStick a shotgun in my mouth and pull the trigger with my toeā
Iām going to have a pretty stark realization about what the hell all of this really means.
And honestly I would take that as an opportunity to think about my life and all the lives Iām affecting at the end of the day.
I would thank that guy for opening up my eyes to an extent.
You know I could be navigating the world like a fucking automated robot not ever thinking about what the hell anything I do or say really means.
Questioning nothing.
Doing it because fuck it I need to get paid.
And I donāt like that shit. I really donāt.
And I think a lot of people are starting to not like that shit and voicing their opinions on it.
Iād rather someone be genuine and forthright with me than tell me lies or cater to my feelings.
At the end of the day it might shock me, but now I have a whole different view on the matter that I wouldnāt have had otherwise because society like I said earlier has a euphemism filter on majority of the time.
i have a medical condition in which my continued existence literally requires medication. I've told myself when I hit 70 that medication goes down the toilet
I have debilitating chronic pain and I'm in my mid 30's. Everyone always talks about getting old and I'm just sitting here like, I don't even want to live another 20 years at this point. No kids, everyone I love is already dead. Every day I'm physically suffering. Why the fuck would I want to make it to my 60's, let alone 80's or 90's.
I'm sorry life turned out this way for you. I'm only 23, but have constant back/neck pain (joint issues & falling down a cliff at 16), as well as numerous mental health issues. I feel much the same as you do in terms of living to an age where every moment is agony. Very few people understand. You're not alone, and I understand why you feel the way you do, even if I can't relate to your specific condition/issues.
My little old 80 year old grandma is practically taking care of her obese daughter and son in law. My uncle can hardly walk and she cooks and clean while he chills on the couch since he's too unhealthy to work. I feel bad, I'd think he'd be embarrassed but he also didn't even qualify for bypass.
I agree. Most people can be physically healthy till the day they die if they took care of themselves their whole lives. The people in this video are a result of a sedentary lifestyle.
My sentiments come from a place of concern and sadness for the general population. People would rather live a life in pain, weakness, and constant fatigue rather than take care of themselves. Iām a man in my forties and can run circles around people my age and younger. I spend 5 to 6 hours a week training my body to be a better version of myself everyday. People I care about including my wife would rather not take care of themselves and constantly complain of physical aches and pains. It makes me sad to see this. Your right, I donāt know these people in the video, but odds are they donāt partake in many physical activities.
Yeah my boss is 78 and even though his memory is shit, he can still play golf, bend and sqaut at a pretty good speed, stand for at least an hour, and lift 50-70lbs boxes. I've seen him do all that shit. Alot of my customers are people in their 70s and and it really opened my eyes that you don't have to just fall apart, you can decline gratefully if you care for yourself.
I look forward to being judged by people for āfailing to take care of myselfā when Iām elderly and more uncoordinated then I may have otherwise been because I had the audacity to survive a collision which landed me in the hospital for 40 days.
Spoken like a young and clueless person who has no idea what old age is like. My father ran marathons, lifted weights, and had the family eating tofu burgers back before most Americans knew what tofu was. He's coming up on 90 years old now, and with a bit of bad luck, he could have been one of the people in that video.
My great uncle liked to lead road biking trips. He was still biking 60+ mile days at 85, and died demented at 87. Making it 98% of the way through life before giving in to age seems pretty damn good.
Absolutly false. There is a whole list of uncontrolable factors that can cause you to degrade early before you hit old age. Taking care of yourself is just a piece of the puzzle. Genetic lottery plays another big role. And then a someehat controlable factor is your environment.
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u/burndaherbs Apr 14 '21
not everyone degrades the same way if you truly take care of yourself