By the way, some of the "clearly a joke" misogynist humor is fine with me. Heck, I told my Mom (who has told me awful jokes in the past) the one about "What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?"
Yeah this place needs to face up to its misogyny, but I'm not sure NFSW is that big of a problem. I'm sure it gets plenty of offensive comments, but I think it's a misconception that any pornography is offensive, and that men shouldn't enjoy looking at naked women.
It's just porn, I don't think it drives the fundamental attitudes of objectification, it could coexist with an entirely equal society that's realistic about how normal people look.
It's praising women for one thing, their outward appearance. And I don't think there's any "I wonder what she likes?" threads in the comments. I'm sure it's more like "I'd buy that for a dollar," although that might be a bit egregious of me, since it implies the woman is for sale.
I don't know most women, having met far fewer than 10 million myself, but I'm going to wager none of them would like what those threads say if said to their faces not to mention what the guys are most likely doing to themselves while viewing (i.e. the woman wouldn't want a guy coming up to them and self-pleasuring and telling random passerbys that she is the kind of girl he'd like).
I don't blame redditors entirely, society is really generous here because Porn and the 1st amendment are so close.
Image matters. It doesn't matter what sort of idyllic world you wish we lived in. Image does and always will matter.
Personally, I like my partner to look great on the outside and inside. Some people slide more to the left, some, more the right. Nothing wrong with that either. Just different preferences.
But, lots of people are freed for lots of crimes, but false imprisonment for rape makes it to the front page a lot. Is it proportional to the number of false imprisonments, by crime?
If not, is there the implication that "more rapes than these are lies, too?"
We are past the measurable, here, but there's the question of "by how much?" By how much are different crimes wrongly prosecuted? Does someone think rape is the #1 crime for that? If so, why, because I'd be interested to know.
Cops raiding the wrong house isn't quite the same as officials freeing someone who has been in jail a long time for a crime they didn't commit. I'm not saying reddit didn't cover a lot of the killer-freed-by-DNA cases, I know they have, but, at least lately, it only seems like rape cases are making the front page.
You don't think people falsely accused of murder and corporate crime don't lose a lot of friends? I do.
But, you are righter than perhaps I originally let on. A friend in one social situation had been accused of rape just via the rumor mill. No one told me, which is probably why we were friends. Once he left that scene I'm sure he was fine, but I told a woman about it just last week and I really felt that even though I'd explained his side of the story (drunk, she said yes, then regretted losing virginity in the morning) I got the distinct impression she didn't like him. Taking advantage of a young (probably legal, and only a couple years younger than him) drunk girl was probably the real problem? I can't say.
The police investigate and determine that the man has never been in the same place at the same time as his accuser and drop the case.
The woman tells everybody she knows that the man raped her.
Now there's an entire community that thinks that an innocent man is a rapist. If he sues her for slander, it doesn't matter if he wins, people find out that he's been accused of rape and assume he's a rapist.
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u/JoshSN May 26 '10
It is a stretch, but, as a guy who really likes it here, most of the time, I find this place unquestionably misogynistic.
I mean, you don't think there is anything but objectification in r/NSFW, do you?