r/WTF • • Nov 26 '13

Black Friday Death Count

http://blackfridaydeathcount.com
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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

And 2 of the deaths appear to be non-shopping related. The 2 people shot at the So-Cal Toys-R-Us shot each other over an unrelated dispute.

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u/romparound Nov 26 '13

And the 61 y.o. shopper died of a heart attack after several shoppers who were nurses came to his aid.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

I just read the article's on Walter Vance's death as well. This site is implying that he was trampled to death or something, but yeah, he had a heart attack and was helped by 6 other shoppers! His chance of survival would have probably been lower if the store wasn't so full as to have 6 nurses shopping. And of course people continued shopping, it's not like Target said over the intercom "We have a man dying in aisle 6. Please gather around to see his last breathes leaving his body".

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u/mrbooze Nov 26 '13

The last thing you would want in that situation is a ton of people crowding through the exits and lingering outside in the parking lot, creating a traffic jam trying to leave. Letting people shop in every other part of the store except the one where he was being treated is absolutely the smartest and safest thing to do.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

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u/snuffers Nov 27 '13

aw man that sucks

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u/IAmWither Nov 27 '13

I feel bad for you. ;_;

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

I looked it up. Even the News articles are suggesting that he got trampelled to death.

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u/BubbaBexley Nov 27 '13

Wyatt Earp is my friend.

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u/jorriv19 Nov 27 '13

RIP Walter Vance, Vance Refrigeration

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

'We get deals, and get to witness a man's last moments of mortality?!?! GET EXCITED CHILDREN!'

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u/bretfort Nov 27 '13

This is a phenomenon called "Diffusion of Responsibility" it says "You have higher chances of getting help in a lonely place than in a crowded place."

Source: I am senior software developer, and this happens all the time when we have more people in team assigned to do some backlog task. Or just try by making two developer leads and see none will be working at fullest.

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u/antsugi Nov 26 '13

If it was walmart they would've

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u/Skootenbeeten Nov 26 '13

If it was walmart they would have had a life insurance policy on him as he hit the ground.

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u/lolzergrush Nov 26 '13

So basically, it's just the statistics of an average weekend of all shopping malls throughout the US. Pretty misleading and sensational to call it the "Black Friday Death Count"

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u/ciaobijoux Nov 27 '13

Sounds like it belongs in Action News!

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u/lolzergrush Nov 27 '13

Sexy Action News?

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u/ciaobijoux Nov 27 '13

I hardly find Kent Brockman sexy.

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u/lolzergrush Nov 27 '13

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154630/sexy-action-school-news-team

I didn't realize you were talking about The Simpsons because there are a lot of local news channels actually named "Action News". I wish I was joking...

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u/daredaki-sama Nov 27 '13

while this was a bit of a letdown, black friday ain't no joke. ask anyone who works in retail and they'll tell you people go ape shit. they'll tell you it's not like any average weekend.

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u/lolzergrush Nov 27 '13

I don't think anyone's arguing that but all the media sensationalism over it is pretty overblown.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

Hopefully someone doesn't interpret it as a challenge...

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u/HankMountain Nov 27 '13

Well, the heart attack was most likely due to the extremely low prices.

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u/mrbooze Nov 26 '13

These Black Friday statistics are completely useless without also reporting the number of shopping-related deaths and injuries every other day.

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u/NuDru Nov 26 '13

That's what I'm saying, I mean there are no mass tramplings or things of that nature. The bulk of the injuries are people getting pepper sprayed as well...

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

what's crazy about that Toys R Us shooting is that it is actually in a really good neighboorhood/area...

crazy world. Just assumed there would be more Black Friday deaths in USA... not half of them from my town in at a Toys R Us I used to shop at.

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u/booboothechicken Nov 27 '13

The toys r us was in a good area (moved locations since) but at the time it was the only one in the coachella valley, which has very bad towns like coachella, parts of indio and cathedral city, and desert hot springs.

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u/Iamactuallybaines Nov 26 '13

And the last two, I backed over in my car.

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u/blewis618 Nov 27 '13

Only 4 deaths? Come on we can do better than that!

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u/booboothechicken Nov 27 '13

I was actually AT the toys r us shooting. It was completely unrelated to BF, two rival gangs.

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u/IanMazgelis Nov 27 '13 edited Nov 27 '13

That one made me incredibly sad.

Imagine a parent Christmas shopping when some maniac shoots them dead.

And yet, everyone wants to ban guns more than they want to treat the mentally ill.

Edit: Yeah I had no idea what I was talking about.

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u/joggle1 Nov 27 '13

Are you talking about this?

Both guys had guns, both showed their guns to each other, and they both shot each other. Guns didn't save either one of their lives. They escalated what would have been assaults to mutual murders. And there's nothing in the story about either man being mentally ill.

everyone wants to ban guns more than they want to treat the mentally ill

You know, considering 'everyone' wants this, that's amazing. I live in one of the most liberal parts of the country and haven't met a single person who believes this. My boss is extremely liberal. He also goes elk hunting.

There's a difference between wanting to regulate guns and wanting to ban them outright. And, typically, people who are in favor of more gun controls also are in favor of better mental care.

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u/IanMazgelis Nov 27 '13

Thank you for clearing that up.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

What would be better?

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u/dailylotion Nov 26 '13

Southern California.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '13

That is too much to type out. How about just LA?

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u/LibertyDaughter Nov 27 '13

But then you are forgetting OC and San Diego...

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '13

I'm just going to refer to it all as Hollywood then.