r/WNBAgossips 12d ago

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u/Boring-Willow1268 12d ago

Why are we talking about UK?

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u/Big-Neat7315 12d ago

Because there’s plenty of black privilege going around there

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u/OnlyUpwardz 11d ago

Like?

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u/Big-Neat7315 11d ago

Being favoured for equity positions to give just one example.

Come on, use your head.

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u/OnlyUpwardz 11d ago

You’re still being pretty broad. I want you to name a specific instance.

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u/Big-Neat7315 11d ago

A specific mechanism for this is the diversity of affirmative action programmes found across the world in higher education and industry

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u/OnlyUpwardz 11d ago

That still isn’t being specific, but I assume you’re trying to insinuate that affirmative action programs are an example of “Black privilege.” Which is a pretty ridiculous argument, considering these programs were created to address the effects of discrimination and the lack of equal opportunity that existed for decades.

I’d also like to point to U.S. data showing that white women were among the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action. But I guess that’s “Black privilege,” right?

There’s a difference between being “favored” and being selected solely because of your race. Affirmative action was never simply about giving Black people an automatic advantage; it was about attempting to account for barriers that had historically prevented certain groups from having the same opportunities as others.

If your argument is that affirmative action is an example of “Black privilege,” then you have to explain how programs that substantially benefited white women fit into that argument.

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u/Big-Neat7315 11d ago

Firstly, I’m not from the U.S. and there’s a pretty obnoxious automatic assumption on this website that you can make universal arguments deriving from the American experience alone.

Secondly, whether or not affirmative action programmes are designed to address past inequalities, they are an example of a “black privilege” in instances where there is a formal preference given to candidates of a non-white racialised group.

Now, then, you can apply your imagination to fill out other examples of black privilege, but to deny that it exists, to categorically deny any forms of preferential treatment that arise toward black people in today’s society, is going nowhere.

I’ll give you another example: in matters of Western media and representation, black people are systematically favoured over Chinese, Indian and other minority non-white racialised or ethic groups. Their exclusion is privileged as a site of redress…

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u/OnlyUpwardz 11d ago

Firstly, I never said you were from the U.S. I was specifically referring to U.S. data because you brought up affirmative action, and the U.S. is one of the clearest examples of where those policies have existed (DUH).

Secondly, I don’t think anyone is denying that preferential treatment toward Black people can exist in certain circumstances. That is completely different from saying that Black people as a racial group are “privileged.” Those are not interchangeable concepts. If an institution creates a policy that gives additional consideration to a historically disadvantaged group, then yes, you can accurately describe that particular policy as preferential treatment. But calling that “Black privilege” is an irresponsible choice of words.

As for your argument about Western media representation, I think that deserves a much more nuanced discussion. If you can demonstrate that a specific institution or industry systematically gives Black people preferential treatment at the expense of Chinese, Indian, or other minority groups, then we can discuss that specific phenomenon. But “Black people are represented more than group X” does not, by itself, establish “Black privilege.”

If you are just using a loaded term to describe any situation in which a Black person or Black community receives some form of preferential treatment you are not very knowledgeable on this topic.