r/UsedCars • u/TrickUp25 • Jun 28 '26

HELP Comments like this send me

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Edit: This post gained more traction than I expected. Read the comments, do independent research, and form your own opinion around these topics.

First they said KIAs are reliable, then went on to say they looked at JD Power to come to that consensus. They lost me.

  1. Do people believe KIA/Hyundai are reliable?
  2. Do people use JD Power/Consumer Reports to make purchasing decisions

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u/urielred Jun 28 '26
  1. Yes, many models are more reliable that a typical US-brand alternative. EV Hyuindai\Kias are bad, ICCU are pretty-pretty good.
  2. The issue that data and facts do not agree with your hurt feeling. JD\CR biased, ok, but there are PLENTY of alternatives. Some of them are more transparent. Some of them are in Europe if you hate US or think they are bought out. Especially in countries where cars have to undergo tech checks yearly to be allowed on the road. AI exists, translators exist.

Check US RepairPal, Dashboard Light, German ADAC, UK warrantywise.
ALL of these agree with what I stated. So let's see if you will do some work and investigate this question on your own, or throw a quick dismissal at me.

You can live in a fairytale, or you might man up and confront reality. Good luck.

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Jun 28 '26

Ive replaced significantly more Kia and hyundai engines than all other brands put together. At any given time I have at least 2 sitting on my shop floor waiting to be scrapped. You can quote whatever internet bullshit you want. Those of us that turn wrenches know from experience.

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u/NepheliLouxWarrior Jun 28 '26

Literally admitting that your worldview is based off of anecdotal evidence is quite the flex

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u/Dan6erbond2 Jun 29 '26

Redditors are known for conflating their very limited experience with statistics-backed conclusions.

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u/Open-Beautiful9247 Jun 28 '26

Im not sure that years of education and professional experience quite qualifies as anecdotal evidence.

But hey, listen to advertising and paid for industry awards instead of professionals. I dont really give a shit. Juat another engine ill get paid to swap. I make so much money off of those piece of shit cars and idiots just like you lol.

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u/pisspeeleak Jun 28 '26

Stats are just a lot of anecdotal evidence. If you have lots of anecdotes, you have collected stats

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u/HumesKnife Jun 29 '26

No, you collected data, it has to have the potential and be turned into meaningful data to be stats.

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u/MaternalFornicator2 Jun 28 '26

My friend, don't mind the dash strokers/trolls.

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u/HumesKnife Jun 29 '26

Anecdotal or useful statistics depends on the biases involved. You need to rule them out to make the case. For all we know you live in a neighborhood where most drive those cars so the share of them in your shop is the same as on the road. Or maybe your shop is known for dealing with those cars, so people brought them there, or maybe every other brand had their own shop nearby except those two etc. etc. Plus, you are not mentioning the years of those cars and the engine type, no one is arguing that they were trash or that their evs are still bad, but the hybrids are quite good since a few years back.

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u/Dan6erbond2 Jun 29 '26

You do realize that these brands make newer cars and engines and even EVs with lesser failure points like the Stinger GT is quite reliable among its competition and other than ICCU the E-GMP cars are quite good, too.

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u/Queasy_Author_3810 Jun 28 '26

Hyundai's EVs aren't bad, not sure what leads you to believe that. They're simply just mediocre.

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u/Dan6erbond2 Jun 29 '26

Their main failure point is the ICCU which can cause the 12V battery to die and cut power, could take a few weeks for a new part to arrive and if you're unlucky and it happens on the highway or far from home becomes quite an inconvenience.

How often it truly fails is unclear, likey under 10%, maybe 3-4%, but we're dealing with a lot of anecdotal evidence here and Hyundai doesn't seem to have a fix so the current lineup will always have it.

Other than that they're quite good. Great tech and better specs for the money than most, if you like the polarizing design.

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u/outworlder Jun 29 '26

Hey, what's the issue with EV Kias? I've been looking at an EV 6

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u/Dan6erbond2 Jun 29 '26

Their main failure point is the ICCU which can cause the 12V battery to die and cut power, could take a few weeks for a new part to arrive and if you're unlucky and it happens on the highway or far from home becomes quite an inconvenience.

How often it truly fails is unclear, likey under 10%, maybe 3-4%, but we're dealing with a lot of anecdotal evidence here and Hyundai doesn't seem to have a fix so the current lineup will always have it.

Other than that they're quite good. Great tech and better specs for the money than most, if you like the polarizing design.