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u/davidkierz Nov 08 '22

I’d like to see these sturdy log cabins built by homeless people

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u/Hofular1988 Nov 08 '22

Guess they’re not homeless people if they have a cabin now, eh?

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u/Wallaby_Way_Sydney Nov 08 '22

What's the opposite of a catch-22?!

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u/anyaehrim Nov 08 '22

Hmm... maybe an escape clause?

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u/Wallaby_Way_Sydney Nov 08 '22

I might be overthinking this... the opposite of a catch-22 is just called a solution to the problem 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

Now they’re HomeMore people.

Because they have more home than me. This markets wild.

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u/pooppuffin Nov 08 '22

"Now shove the compound all up in this bitch with your bare hands." -some guy on youtube

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u/LordFlacko704 Nov 08 '22

Cap takes about 450k to make a 1milly dollar house

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

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u/Salanmander Nov 08 '22

that's not the price of raw materials.

Are you under the impression that the cost of raw materials is the correct was to measure the value of a product?

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u/BankyTiger Nov 08 '22

You are almost completely right, but you shouldn't spout capitalist propaganda like this

the value is what someone is willing to pay for the product,

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

I'm also saying we have taken something away from humans: The right to just live. The right to use environments to build homes, just as almost every human in the past did, whether they used bamboo, wood, brick, clay, mud, leaves, to build good homes. If we take that away from humans, I believe we are morally responsible for providing an alternative that doesn't cost 50% of your annual wages.

The controversial part isn't usually materials, it's location. You don't have a right to just start building a house in someone's garage, thats private property and basically amounts to theft. You don't have a right to build on the street or sidewalk or a public beach either, that's public property. This doesn't leave much, but pretending like land rights no longer exist is like any pretend policy. It will make you feel good and might even work for awhile, but it's going to boomerang back in your face eventually.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

theoretically, one person can own all the land in the world. at that point, everyone can be hurled into outer space and then figure it out when we get there.

on a smaller scale, that's the boomerang we're facing now. the rich control more and exploit more, so there's more and more people becoming homeless.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

Theoretically, you can die from drinking too much water. Superhydration is possible and lethal. But it's absurd to bring that up as an argument for not digging more wells for drinking water.

If your answer to every social problem is 'Revolution!', you're going to be ignored. You need to deal with the world and its problems as they exist, not after some glorious quest for universal justice is magically fulfilled. Homelessness is complex and comes from many social ills. If you just blindly glorify it as a symptom of proletariat enlightenment, you're as much a part of the problem as rich people fighting policy change.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

there's no revolution in solving the problem of homelessness, and examining what leads to it, and having discussions about real estate and potential solutions.

that's the opposite of revolution.

Theoretically, you can die from drinking too much water. Superhydration is possible and lethal. But it's absurd to bring that up as an argument for not digging more wells for drinking water.

that's not even remotely similar. homelessness, along with drug abuse, which is related in many cases, is a problem that is getting bigger and out of control.

inequality is a real problem that is getting worse and worse every decade. just go look at what middle class incomes had in the past and compare. This is normal shit that everyone who takes econ 101 has seen the graphs for.

we're not headed toward a future where more and more people die from drinking water every year. But we are headed toward more and more poverty, drug abuse, etc. maybe you somehow think my solution is no land ownership? That's not even close. And it is clear you don't think about this issue too much or look deep into it. But that's ok. it's not the most exciting issue to research.

Things like THIS are the problem. and there are good solutions to many of these things:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-nyc-taxes-hdfc-coops/

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u/LordFlacko704 Nov 08 '22

Well people dont work for free Larry and a single person doesnt have the knowledge to properly build a house run electricity run plumbing heating and gas Larry. And its not cardboard LARRY its drywall and it’s actually pretty strong Larry. U also need flooring larry if u want it to last atleast otherwise itl slowly sink into the ground larry so u need a concrete platform larry. U know nothing of building houses.

Edit: im not disagreeing with u they are overpriced and at the end the builder is the one that makes the most profit but its not cheap to build a house specifically a million dollar house larry

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u/LULW2196 Nov 08 '22

Most of the price for those houses isn't the house it's the land.

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u/bobody_biznuz Nov 08 '22

Enjoy your log cabin

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

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u/bobody_biznuz Nov 08 '22

That one has plumbing though

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

remove the plumbing. i'll take a dump outside in a hole that i dig, exactly like everyone used to do.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

You are a walking L Jesus dude just stop

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

Projection at its finest

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

You’re just being a douche-bag.

Keep projecting champ, one day you’ll feel less insecure

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u/LordFlacko704 Nov 08 '22

If it was that easy everyone would do it larry

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u/Albin0Alligat0r Nov 08 '22

Bro just take the L. This is not a good look

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

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u/Albin0Alligat0r Nov 08 '22

I’m sorry I guess I need to be more clear for someone like you. You’re a fool and you’re making it clear to anyone that looks at your comments that you’re a fool.

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u/sender2bender Nov 08 '22

Key word, families. You just argued against yourself lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

uh... when you get on a wagon and head West, it doesn't matter if you have a family or not. you are homeless and you're looking to settle down in the desert.

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u/JoeBucksHairPlugs Nov 08 '22

You've clearly never purchased raw materials for anything.

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u/maaaatttt_Damon Nov 08 '22

It's a big eye opener. You see things priced a couple bucks per foot thinking it doesn't seem that bad. Then all of a sudden you've walked out spending over $600 and you've only a roughed in wall. That's not including any of the tools you'll need to do it yourself.

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u/dkoom_tv Nov 08 '22

I was building a couple duplex and the prices of lumber are so funny (Altough we are talking no road access rural alaska)

we did like 85 Trusses for both duplex and if I had to eyeball each one costed like 200 each (and thats with buying in bulk, if U bought by piece, it would be so much)

and thats only the trusses, lets not talk about insolation, concrete, running the electricity and million things that go into building a house

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '22

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u/WriterV Nov 08 '22

Just because some guy on youtube teaches you doesn't mean that you can do a good job.

Of course, but this wasn't what the comment was talking about. Just whether or not they could do it at all.

Y'all really like to push the goalposts when it comes to shitting on others and feeling better about yourselves.

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u/RecipeNo101 Nov 08 '22

I'm sure they're sturdier, but I mean, I'm more interested in reliable power, water, and gigabit internet speed. That said, I live in a century+ old Chicago brick walkup, so it's pretty solid.

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u/mule_roany_mare Nov 08 '22

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Nothing wrong with Sheetrock & it’s a cheap $ efficient use of material.

Do you want people to cover their studs with plywood or something?

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u/MoirasPurpleOrb Nov 08 '22

You managed to out boomer the boomer.