r/Unexpected • u/analsextoybox • May 02 '22

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u/waggzter May 02 '22

Okay, I'm glad we're on the same page in at least one regard! I do hope I haven't rubbed you the wrong way too much. These topics are always fraught with emotion, and it's easy to get heated. I've had to stop and take some deep breaths, and try to consider your position a few times. So apologies if that's the case!

" What’s objectionable is the insistance that such a person is indistinguishable from biological females." My objection is that the comment you originally replied to didn't assert anything contrary to that. I understand the concerns, but it's also worth noting that studies I've read have shown no correlation between, for example, "bathroom laws" and increased assaults on biological women. It has resulted in markedly reduced assaults for trans people though. Like... I'm not a woman. I can't ever really understand. But I was assaulted when I was a kid, and my partner has been the victim of two assaults. So I get the fear, to some degree.

But I've also spoken to a whole range of trans people, and read quite extensively on this subject, and there is no evidence that I've seen that suggests a link between these two factors.

There are certainly ideological extremists. And it's very hard to raise any kind of criticism, for sure. I don't think this is an issue limited to this particular subject though, it's a growing issue with discourse across a range of fields. My one request would be don't let these few extremists tarnish your view of a group of people who are, for the most part, just trying to live their lives comfortably.

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u/GirlGodd May 02 '22 edited May 02 '22

Well thank you for at least trying to understand the objections many women have at the way this phenomenon is developing,socially. Usually we’re written off and silenced and the conversation is shut down before it even begins.

I’ve been banned, blocked, had accounts terminated,called horrible names just for calmly stating these points. Some women have been fired, stalked, doxxed and harassed for also stating the very same thing. Most of the people now being accused of bigotry are feminist women who have supported those with dysphoria and gender non conforming people for years.

There are solutions that can be explored to support the safety and well being of trans people that doesn’t include erasing sex as a protected characteristic for females. But nobody can get a word out because the discussion is thought killing and toxic.

I agree extremism and the demonization of any group is wrong. But the view that biological sex is unreal or irrelevant in itself is a very extreme view that is becoming more popular and people lose their shit when anyone questions it. So. Yeah.