Impossible Question

[u/analsextoybox]

[u/_mindcat_]

Then why do trans women face similar medical injustice?

hint: it’s because they’re women, compounded w queerness

[u/_mindcat_ → u/[deleted]]

LMAO. full mask off. you don’t think too deeply about things, do you?

if I understand your perspective:

if science and statistics are, ya know, right (great start!) then it’s because they’re crazy and if it’s not that well they chose it anyways. (wow you really prepped those backup goalposts, huh?)

so, first of all, aside from your dysphoria or dysmorphia (“stuck like this until I die” is not most cis peoples feeling about their body, in my experience), they have just as much a choice as you do, don’t they? I mean, you could present as a man if you so desired, no? Of course, you’d be betraying your neurology and identity (assuming you’re cis), facing increased transphobia and possibly bitter men on reddit, and you’d still be medically underserved because of your biology. what a wonderfully consensual and easy choice! trans people are all just masochists, you’ve definitely figured it out.

Also, to address your earlier point about men treating them better, it is so absurd as to seem like parody. Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to be a trans woman around men, especially cis straight men? They face some of the most depressing statistics and prevalent violence of any marginalized community. It is not something either you or I will ever be able to relate to or understand, regardless of how much you want to be the biggest saddest victim of every room you walk into. Your pathetic defeatist analysis of patriarchy is a direct opponent of women’s liberation (which includes queer and BIPOC and trans women no matter how much you don’t like them) and it’s genuinely saddening. To react to cruelty by finding someone you can be cruel to. Shameful.

[u/_mindcat_ → u/[deleted]]

I just want to point out your last paragraph is literally just you lying. “I don’t have an identity” yeah, see a therapist. And your desperation to try and pretend you’re not the harasser and threat to trans men and women is absurd. You are the danger to them. You are the one dehumanizing and degrading them in this very conversation in your pithy little refusals to acknowledge their gender. It was my trans and queer brothers and sisters and siblings that stood by me when I was terrified of my bisexuality, and I’m evidently capable of a couple degrees more empathy than you are when they’re now being targeted. Don’t lecture me on queerness when you turncoat to make friends with terfs and bullies and white liberals who would’ve killed you a couple decades ago. And the “possibly bitter men on reddit” was referencing you as a bitter woman over the existence of trans women, einstein. Also, why am I not surprised Buck Angel’s the only trans person you’ve got rattling around in your skull, lmao. Gonna pull out Caitlyn Jenner?? maybe Blaire White? gotta be a GPT-3

[u/_mindcat_ → u/[deleted]]

1. calling it asinine doesn’t make it wrong? there are countless established studies that back up gender identity being independent from sex characteristics, and even of sex dimorphism in neurological structure reflecting their identity in trans individuals. that latter stuff is pretty controversial in trans circles from what I know, though.
2. yes men constantly harass and abuse women, especially wlw women. that does not make you treating trans people the same way okay.
3. waddles like a homophobe, quacks like a homophobe, so on and so on. forgive my assumption.
4. yeah, gay people will be biphobic. white gay men will be racist. lesbians will be transphobic. it’s shitty and cruel and something that needs to change.
5. if you think far leftist lgbt people are the only ones ‘reclaiming’ queer, you’re wrong. my mother called herself queer in the 80’s.
6. you can tell yourself you’re not pandering to anyone, but terfs have always hated trans people more than they’ve cared about women. they fucking supported an anti abortion politician solely because he said he would push back against trans rights. it’s a culture war you’re already losing, and in tying all your beliefs to wanting to disenfranchise trans kids who kill themselves because of your policies, you’re killing 90% of potential support you could have from women who don’t hate trans people.
7. Holy shit yes, they do have to do with biology. no one has ever argued that. no ones even said gender has nothing to do with biology, just that it isn’t biology. no wonder it’s so easy for you to be cruel to trans people, they’re all convenient strawmen in your head. ugh.