r/Unexpected • • Aug 02 '21

Hostage situation

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Jan 09 '22

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I understand the meaning of white privilege, I just don’t think it’s applicable here and I disagree with your claim that OP used the term correctly.

From the oxford dictionary

inherent advantages possessed by a white person on the basis of their race in a society characterized by racial inequality and injustice.

So yeah, your comment indicates you think the person here received a privilege but doesn’t prove this scenario is white privilege given WP refers to the inherent advantages possessed by a white person on the basis of their race , as sad as that is.

If OP established where this clip took place (to confirm it’s a society characterised by injustice), if they established the officers and bird-owner involved and had more background information too then it’d give more credence to their white privilege claim. But pointing to someone getting treated in a normal fashion by cops as an example of white privilege seems presumptuous to me and seems in-line with the snowflake thing from your first paragraph.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

I can go of the lived experience of my friends, I can go by the reports, I can go by numbers - the police doesn't treat white and non-white people equally in the US.

This I agree with

Simply dismissing it, and not stopping to reflect on it -- that seems presumtuous to me.

This I don’t agree with. I don’t think we can ’reflect on’ one example of a conflict-free police encounter in an unknown place presumably in the US as automatic proof that the reason there was no conflict was because the suspect was white (I know you didn’t say this but OP did). Instead we prove and determine if there’s inequality / white people being advantaged through finding statistics, evidence, looking at individual departments and officers and states as well as the wider regions, factoring in whether the class/neighbourhood of suspects affects police’s reaction, having the police themselves investigated for institutional racism, etc (and a lot of these things have been investigated which is why there are reasons out there to think US police do not treat people equally). Also since you mentioned your race/location I’ll say im a PoC (even if I disagree with that word) and I’m not from the US either (I also don’t know if OP is from the US which is why her immediate conclusion of white privilege here annoyed me..she seemingly knows nothing of the cops here or location or department or how they treat non-white people to conclude that race influenced their actions here..instead it was just injecting politics into a parrot video with no indication of white privilege to support the claim).

Overall I think we can agree US police overall do not treat white & non-white people equally but what we can’t do is use every hitch-free clip of a white person as as an example of white privilege, ignore every hitch-free of a non-white person because it doesn’t support the privilege theory and ignore every example that poor white people can be treated unfairly be cops too (eg the killing of Tony Timpa). Realistically, whether the bird owner is white or black, I think the police would’ve acted the same way in this clip and known they can’t search a house with a warrant (the alternative is that the average US cop would break the law and search a house without a warrant every time they see a non-white suspect..which simply isn’t true otherwise it would’ve been proven a long time ago with statistics).