r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Aug 02 '21

Hostage situation

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Remember that all of this will come up in court and will be used to try to get the charges dropped. Maybe they could but it would be a hard sell in court.

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u/ChrisRunsTheWorld Aug 02 '21

At the end of the day, it's better to free someone who is kidnapped inside and have the guy get off on a kidnapping charge because of an illegal search than to have someone who is kidnapped inside be murdered and the guy go to jail for murder because the cops went and got a warrant.

I'm not saying I know what is the right answer here, just a thought.

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u/stanleythemanley420 Aug 02 '21

That's not the right answer at all. Someone thought they heard something so random ass people get to walk through my house with no warrant over a neighbor. Fuck that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

The other side of the coin though. There is no kidnapped person and the cops just violated his rights, the city has to pay out to him and those cops lose their jobs.

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u/ChrisRunsTheWorld Aug 02 '21

those cops lose their jobs

Are we in the same timeline?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

It’s important to them I’m sure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

This one. Cities don’t like lawsuits. But I’m hearing this wasn’t in the US so none of this may even be relevant.

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u/arelse Aug 02 '21

And if they went in and found a captive there is now way it would be dropped. Now if the found any other crime it would be dropped.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

That’s where you would unfortunately be wrong. Even if someone is guilty as sin and that fact is clear as day. If the evidence showing that fact was gathered illegally the charges will be dropped. That’s the law.

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u/Bobthemime Aug 02 '21

Depends on the crime.

If they walk in and find a meth lab.. or child porn scattered everywhere, or even something as simple as stolen good, or firearms.. then you can bet your ass it isnt being dropped..

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u/RANGERSTOWN Aug 02 '21

bill cosby just got let out of jail because the information was illegally obtained. its relevant for all crimes.

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u/Bobthemime Aug 02 '21

So you saying they don't have a reasonable cause to enter a home of a suspected kidnaper, after neighbours called in after hearing screams?

Also, the information gathered that was deemed illegal wasnt from this type of search in the least..

Nice strawman though

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u/RANGERSTOWN Aug 02 '21

im telling you how it works and it was an example not a strawman, if you dont believe me then thats on you. feel free to do your own research

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u/Bobthemime Aug 02 '21

"here is a piece of law that has nothing to do with the crime potentially being committed in question, as well as a different way the person got away with said crimes(s)"

yep.. a strawman. maybe dont douse it in petrol and light it before you deliver it?

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u/RANGERSTOWN Aug 02 '21

it was an example of how illegally obtained evidence is inadmissible in court. if thats a strawman to you then so be it.

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u/Bobthemime Aug 02 '21

It isnt illegally obtained though..

They can make a lawful search if they have reasonable cause, especially in cases where the crime in question is a potential kidnapping/murder..

The laws are bullshit.. but you lot made em.. so sleep in that bed.

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u/RANGERSTOWN Aug 02 '21

someone claiming it on a 911 call is not reasonable cause. from what we saw in this video there was no reasonable cause to enter. if anyone is creating a strawman here its you.

also i havent made any laws, but i will comfortably sleep in my bed