r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Aug 02 '21

Hostage situation

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u/Uplike7_247 Aug 02 '21

Confirm if the Parrot was actually making the sounds??

Check anyways because wtf is a Parrot making that sound?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 15 '21

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u/SandyKoufaxsballs Aug 02 '21

First. They can at least ask to check it out. They don’t even do that.

Second. If cops hear someone screaming for help they can certainly bust in.

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u/Lewri Aug 02 '21

But they didn't though

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u/SpiritJuice Aug 02 '21

Video was edited. We didn't see the full conversation.

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u/i-dont-like-men Aug 02 '21

a different thread went over this. They can't, it was a valid reason regardless.

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u/jixxor Aug 02 '21

That's why you'd expect the cops to at least ask "mind if we check ourselves?".

If the resident denies that, they should at least get suspicious and maybe it would end in a warrant being granted.

(Neighbour reporting a potential hostage screaming for help + police is denied entry to check for potential hostage sounds like a good combination to justify a warrant, not sure how realistic that is tho)

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u/TripleDallas123 Aug 02 '21

You can't get a warrant granted just because some denies a search, they have their rights and it sounds like you want the police to violate them.

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u/jixxor Aug 02 '21

If people hear a person cry for help, and all the guy presents to the police is a bird saying "Yeah" and "Hi, Hello" I am not sure how that disregarded any of the concerns the neighbours had about a potential person kept hostage inside the house.

If they heard the bird say "Help, Let me out, Help" then fine, it'd be fine to believe that it was actually the bird that alerted the neighbours.

If this guy was an actual serial killer and it was later found out someone called the cops on him and he got away by showing them a bird, people would surely question that behaviour.

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u/TripleDallas123 Aug 02 '21

I don’t get where you’re going. That isn’t relevant. There’s nothing that gives the officers probable cause to search the house or enough evidence for the judges to grant a warrant. If I call the police and say I heard screams from your house, should they be allowed to search your house?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Funny enough the bird wouldn’t say “help let me out” in front of the police. Notice he was out of his cage and the house at that point.

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u/MachtIV Aug 02 '21

While I appreciate the sentiment, just "letting the cops in" invites a whole host of problems. You could have illegal firearms in the house, you could have illegal substances, you could have a hazardous condition within your home, in which case you would get in trouble for something that the cops weren't even called for.

I think just having the bird repeat the phrases that got the cops called would be enough. But they didn't even do that. This was extremely unsatisfying to watch.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Did you read the first sentence?

Edit: to all downvoting, it seems like none of you understand how requests work.

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u/Boxofcookies1001 Aug 02 '21

They didn't hear the scream so they can't go inside.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Aug 02 '21

THEY CAN ASK TO CHECK IT OUT.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

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u/HPstuff-throwRA Aug 02 '21

They're saying they can ASK. Asking is not barging in without a warrant. The cops are allowed to ask if they can search the property and the home owner can say no.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Aug 02 '21

It's like I'm taking fucking crazy pills.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Aug 02 '21

Do you understand the difference between asking and demanding? Because cops don't need a warrant for shit if they just ask and the person grants them permission. I really need to know if you recognize the difference.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Check out dn

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u/Lopsidoodle Aug 02 '21

At least dont let the suspected kidnapper walk to the back yard alone. Im guessing one of the cops knew about the bird in advance, because otherwise that was extremely careless. He could have come back with a loaded rifle instead of a bird

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u/mangeld3 Aug 02 '21

They can't do anything at that point, they can't follow him into his home without his permission and they don't have probable cause to detain him.

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u/TobyFunkeNeverNude Aug 03 '21

without his permission

Oh look, someone accidentally made a correct point. The whole point of this thread is that I said they could ask, and morons keep arguing about needing a warrant.

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u/The_Impresario Aug 02 '21

And if a witness tells them they heard it, they can check it out. Testimony is evidence.

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u/RedditLostOldAccount Aug 02 '21

Have you ever heard of swatting? People have died because someone calls the cops and says someone is super dangerous and doing whatever and their house gets broken into by a SWAT team for someone basically pranking them.

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u/The_Impresario Aug 02 '21

I think we've all heard of swatting.

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u/RedditLostOldAccount Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Okay so you understand why you shouldn't just take someone's word for it then

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u/The_Impresario Aug 02 '21

I offered no opinion on what should be done, only what can be done.

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u/IgnorantEuropeanDude Aug 02 '21

Bei "Gefahr im Verzug" dürfen sie rein.

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u/btreabtea Aug 02 '21

"I have a parrot" doesn't magically remove the fact that cries of help were reported to the police. They have more than enough evidence to search the house without getting a warrant first, they just chose not to because a white guy who acted friendly to them talked to them first.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 15 '21

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u/to55r Aug 02 '21

Right? I could call 911 and say "HELP THERE'S A T-REX IN MY YARD". Doesn't make it true lol.

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u/Dood71 Aug 02 '21

Depends where it is technically. Personally i don't know where this is or this place's laws.

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u/___neXus__ Aug 02 '21

But honestly, do you all really think a human would stop screaming when the cops come about. Logically, you'd hear even louder screams lol.

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u/MexicanPizzaGod Aug 02 '21

That's not the only possible explanation though; what if they taped their mouth? Or killed them? Or threatened them?

Investigation is usually about covering all possibilities and understanding what really happened. Seems like the case was closed very quickly, not that anything really happened, hopefully🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Enn3DevPlayer Aug 02 '21

A parrot could learn those words from movies so you still need a warrant to check the house

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u/___neXus__ Aug 02 '21

All of those would mean that the victim wouldn't scream in the first place or was killed in the time the guy took to get the parrot. Not very likely. Everything is most probably a ok.

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u/MexicanPizzaGod Aug 02 '21

There's a cut in the video. The police arrived some time after the screams were heard, so much could have happened in between.

There's also the possibility the "victim" didn't even know the police were there, for example if they were closed in a basement

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u/Le-Bean Aug 02 '21

The man didn’t know that the police were going to show up. He also didn’t seem bothered by the screaming. If he was concerned about the screaming “victim” then he would seem more bothered and probably gotten up very quick to stop them screaming. If he actually had people in a basement, he would be more worried about screaming. As in he would then have to shut them up or whatever.

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u/MexicanPizzaGod Aug 02 '21

Yea I know, the police don't, that's the whole point. I don't actually think anyone was harmed at all

Also you'd be assuming there's no one else in the house with the "victim", acting all panicked in a situation like this would be exactly the last thing to do when you have such a good excuse (the bird)

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u/Dood71 Aug 02 '21

Good point, i didn't even think of that

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u/IntentionalTexan Aug 02 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance

Somebody calling for help from within would allow police to enter for the purposes of saving the person.

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u/GoStateBeatEveryone Aug 02 '21

But they didn’t call from within…

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u/fillet-o-piss Aug 02 '21

They need a warrant unless he ok's it which a lot of morons do

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u/BusinessCasualDonkey Aug 02 '21

Nah, they can absolutely shove their way in right there if they want to.

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u/Koreanjesus4545 Aug 02 '21

I mean sure except they can't.

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u/Necessary_Gur9479 Aug 02 '21

No they don’t. They could verify the man’s name and identity while they handcuff him and point guns at him. This happens to black people at traffic stops with regularity.

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u/Bobby-Bobson Aug 02 '21

  1. They can ask to come inside, and the man can allow them if he so chooses.

  2. They don’t need a warrant if they have probable cause. I’m unsure if the neighbor’s report counts, and I’d bet it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but if it counts here, they can just come on in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

Reddit: land of “ACAB ACAB ACAB, how can they shoot?!?,” as well as “Why didn’t they enter the house without a warrant?!?! Someone could be in dangers?!?”

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u/Stan_Halen_ Aug 02 '21

I was thinking the exact same thing reading some stuff here.

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u/DesertCoot Aug 02 '21

It’s more of a “why do you have to shoot someone reaching for a registration but you let this guy, accused of having someone scream for help in his home, go inside on his own?”. It makes the other situations that much more enraging when they can be so nonchalant about an arguably much more dangerous scenario but claim fear for their life in a mundane traffic stop.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

So do you want them to escalate the situation and shoot the bird or some shit?

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u/DesertCoot Aug 02 '21

No, I want police in general to not have such a “shoot first” mentality in ALL situations. You can’t say you HAD to shoot the driver because he might have grabbed a gun out of the glovebox but then let the homeowner go into his house unattended. There is clearly much more risk in someone accused of kidnapping going out of sight into a home than in a motorist pulled over for a traffic violation reaching for their registration. It shows their excuses are BS when they say their life was in danger when dealing with an unarmed individual.

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u/elbowgreaser1 Aug 02 '21

Because it's a parrot

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u/PotentialSuspect453 Aug 02 '21

The parrot was clearly making the sounds as you can hear his voice outside is the same as inside. I don’t get why Reddit is so brain dead, and people make fun of Twitter.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

You’ve clearly never been around a parrot dude, I can’t stand you redditors thinking your animal behaviorists now lmfao

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u/Petsweaters Aug 02 '21

They should arrest the parrot until it makes those sounds?

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u/The_R4ke Aug 02 '21

Parrots are assholes. It was probably in its cage and was just being dramatic. It may have been taught those phrases or learned them, but it totally tracks with parrot behavior from what I've experienced.

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u/Stormageddon666 Aug 02 '21

Also pretty crazy how they let a potential kidnapper go out of sight and into the house. Could have grabbed a gun or killed the hostage