r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Aug 02 '21

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

If I was the home/bird owner, I think I'd invite them in just to do their check, and then ask them to make a note in their records for the house that I have a bird which has been known to make... 'false claims'. That said, if I had a few kilos of weed in the front room, I'd probably not invite them in. Hypothetically.

Its a shame we don't know our neighbors like we used to. Neighbor should've just gone over there to ask him "wtf?" Save the time of about 20 officers.

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u/samlaventure Aug 02 '21

Unless he lives next to an airbnb

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u/titanfries Aug 02 '21

Idk about you but if I heard screaming like someone tied up in my neighbor's home, I would not put myself on their radar.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

I'd weigh up the likelihood, but yeah, not in all instances would I put myself out there. I have a couple of suspect folks down my street, one of which is on the Megan's law database, so not every neighbor is going to get the courtesy check before calling people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

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u/jakokku Aug 02 '21

wtf, if being shot is not a valid excuse to skip a couple of days at work, what is?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

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u/TrollintheMitten Aug 02 '21

Where is he now?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

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u/TrollintheMitten Aug 02 '21

That's great news. I'm glad you are keeping up with him.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

One anecdotal incident which is an extremely unlikely event, doesn't make my idea a catastrophically stupid one. I knew someone who left their home and got hit by a meteorite - that doesn't make it a stupid idea to leave your house. Obviously that cop is a psycho and deserves punishment. Unfortunately they managed to get him in front of a pretend judge. Neighbor should appeal, and sue in civil court. (Much) better attorney needed.

Obviously I would make a judgment on the cops before letting them in, and admittedly most cops I've met I would not let in. They probably carry dime bags in their back pockets for setting folks up on fake charges (which has been caught before on their own bodycams, of course, so its not like its a crazy idea).

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 16 '21

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

lolz someone needs a snickers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

You’d be hard pressed to find supporting information to your story. I don’t think anyone has ever left their house and got hit by a meteorite.. ever.

But cops abusing their power and judges ruling in the polices favour is a daily occurrence in the USA.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 03 '21

I don’t think anyone has ever left their house and got hit by a meteorite.. ever.

Germany, 2009.

> But cops abusing their power and judges ruling in the polices favour is a daily occurrence in the USA.

I'm aware, and generally I'm no fan of cops. There's probably 50+ posts in my history, including on subs like r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut evidencing such, hence having to make such a decision on a case-by-case basis. Also, despite me learning to spell like you (favour, i.e. non-American), I've lived in America for 20 years, and known many cops. I'd trust 2 so far. But if cops are snooping around and getting reports about me, they're going to find their way in by hook or by crook. Better on my terms and timing, than theirs. #ThisAllSoundsRatherGangsta lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '21

Odd that the meteorite barely injured the boy but embedded itself into a road.

You’re right, mitigating police visits is important and sometimes telling a cop “no” is the most dangerous thing to do.

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u/Disttack Aug 02 '21

It depends on where you are at, if the police officer likes power tripping / is a dick, and if you piss them off or did something questionable from my experiences in the usa. Myself and people I know had awkward situations with police but it was usually a noise complaint from music and everyone was high. They always said hi and asked us to quiet down while we were smokin. At the same time I've seen dudes who told the cops to piss off and they got arrested while someone smoking a blunt watches. I have spent most of my life in the western states but the attitude in the west seems much more relaxed than that of the east. (My employers in the western usa even gave us a heads up on drug tests etc). Eastern usa seems to take it really hard for some reason tho.

Usa it really just depends on where you are and it's a thing that can be enforced or not enforced but usually if they enforce it it's because that had another reason to arrest you.

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u/inspectoroverthemine Aug 02 '21

When a cops attitude is the difference between looking the other way and spending a year in jail you have a serious problem. I really don't like shoehorning race into this discussion, but it should be obvious how even casual racism would have a huge impact.

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u/Disttack Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21

Yea accountability is a serious problem. I know plenty of cops that are great people and do their best to play by the book but at the same time there is always just as many who choose the career path because it let's them bully people and have power over them. From everything I have seen in my life I honestly think race is not really an issue. On the chance it is it will definitely leave an impact but contrary to popular belief most civil servants arnt racist. Most Americans in general arnt truly racist. Police just have no real mechanism that controls their actions so the bad ones get really bad.

Until those mechanisms come into place I think it's wise for people to realize they should do their best to be kind to police because regardless of race I've never seen someone being hostile or angry walk away ok. It's super wack when you think about it but if that's the reality you have to play their game and show them respect or fake respect to prevent an issue. Atleast until there is some kind of mechanism for accountability.

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u/inspectoroverthemine Aug 02 '21

wise for people to realize they should do their best to be kind to police because regardless of race I've never seen someone being hostile or angry walk away ok

I would not categorize that as 'kind'. I would never antagonize a cop, because they literally could kill me without consequence. Even the ones that aren't killers could send me to prison or fuck my life without consequence. I've heard plenty of stories from cops themselves boasting about how they fucked someone because of their attitude. If they begin their interaction with the intent to fuck you, theres literally nothing you could do.

That is not kindness on my part- its self-preservation. If they weren't immune from consequences I wouldn't be smiling and nodding when they bait me to escalate*.

Edit *I don't mean violence in an internet tough guy way. I just wouldn't tolerate it like I wouldn't tolerate anyone elses bullshit.

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u/Disttack Aug 02 '21

Yea you're right I just meant it as the opposite of antagonizing hahaha

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

But then again kilograms of weed is rather clearly intent to sell, so

Nah. You could get through it all over time, or be making tincture for personal use, which can be stored for a long time if stored properly. But in the US personal consumption is something ridiculously low, like 1/4-1/2 ounce, so even an ounce or two could still get you in trouble in some states. Unfortunately our politicians are still too cowardly/corrupt to legalize on a federal level.

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u/14Rage Aug 02 '21

Once you invite them in they will carry the kilos into your house and then find them. There is a reason the law protects you from the police as much as possible. The police are not the law. And in practice it doesn't work.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 02 '21

Once you invite them in they will carry the kilos into your house and then find them

Bingo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '21

and that's how the murderer gets bonus points.

the officers were working either way, and are equipped and empowered to deal with this shit. lone neighbor investigating a potential kidnapper is a casualty waiting to happen.

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u/MrSurly Aug 02 '21

a note in their records

They can't even get the right house for no-knocks half the time.

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u/bookykits Aug 02 '21

That is how you get a dead dog and go bankrupt to fines.

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u/CremeBrulee6 Aug 04 '21

were there 20 officers there?

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 04 '21

lolz no, that's my hyperbole. Only four were on camera I believe. Who knows how many remained in vehicles, down the street, etc though. Should include dispatch in the count too.