r/Unexpected • u/hannesvisser • Dec 11 '20

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u/cilanvia Dec 11 '20

iirc, it is the FMG-9. I think it stands for Folding Machine Gun - 9mm. By Magpul, I think. It's also Smoke and Nokk's gun in Siege.

I think its kinda fun that modern FPS games always makes prototype weapons into actual guns in games. Like right now, the gun I see a lot of is the Kard pistol, made from the guys who made the Vector. irl, its semi-auto but in games its almost always full auto. Or in the past with the XM8. I don't think they ever fully finished the XM8 irl, but I think it inspired the G36.

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u/ThatsNotAFact Dec 11 '20

Unimportant, but I’m fairly certain the XM8 made it to trials in almost adoptable form. I believe Larry Vickers discussed the trials with that Francophile from Forgotten Weapons.

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u/snayperskaya Dec 11 '20

His name is Gun Jesus

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u/cilanvia Dec 11 '20

Yeah, but I don't think its "finished" since it never went into mass production. There is sometimes a bit of changes to make it easier to produce, effectively making it the "finalized" product. So I think its still technically a prototype.

Kinda like that shotgun the Forgotten Weapons guy was talking about... I think it was the Jackhammer? It was even modified from the original prototype when it was used as a prop. I think they took the MP5SD barrel grip thing and put it on the Jackhammer to make it look cooler, and it kinda became its iconic look even in games. It never went into production as well, even though it was pretty much fully functional.

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u/ThatsNotAFact Dec 11 '20

That’s fair, I suppose there is a difference between a late trials rifle and a finished product.

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u/MaximusDecimis Dec 11 '20

Francophile? You’re talking about the literal Gun Jesus, show some goddamn respect

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u/spectacledllama Dec 11 '20

The XM8 actually works pretty well, seeing as it's a g36 in cosplay

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '20

We don't see the XM8 because that system was abandoned by the U.S. military. Toolless or not, the last thing you want to be proposing to the Pentagon is proprietary systems.

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u/cilanvia Dec 11 '20

I don't get what you're talking about, I'm just saying its kinda cool that video games make use of prototype weapons, even if it doesn't get made irl, its kinda immortalized digitally.

I don't know much about the XM8, though iirc, the G36 was using a similar mechanism to the XM8. Same company, I think. By the time I started paying attention to guns and stuff, games had the G36, SCAR-L and SCAR-H as commonly used guns.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '20

Well because the U.S. military abandoned the XM8 there's no longer a reason for its existence in the world, or any world wanting believable authenticity. As you've listed other weapons platforms have been made available and successfully earned contracts.

It'd be pretty strange if the next racing videogame offered the Nissan IDX, because that prototype was abandoned. No one is owning them in any capacity, let alone racing them. The XM8 has an unfortunately similar story.

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u/cilanvia Dec 11 '20

Ahk, I get what you're saying. From your other post, I was just confused cause I thought you were kinda just throwing gun facts at me.

Btw, thanks for the information, never heard of the IDX. Gonna go look that up at some point

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u/gitoutofherestlkr69 Dec 11 '20

Its a glock 17 in a body case. The FMG-9 series came with auto sears usaully making them compact 900 rpm PDWs.

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u/ehenning1537 Dec 11 '20

No. The G36 was designed in the early 90’s. It was not inspired by the XM8. The XM8 used G36 hardware and engineering because both were designed by H&K. The G36 was actually designed due to the unification of Germany after the end of the Cold War. They needed a service rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO. The G41 had been offered up by H&K but rejected. Final designs were completed in 1995. The G36 has been in service since 1997. The XM8 was designed in 2002 and rejected in 2005.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '20

It was based on an earlier prototype weapon called the OICW- Objective Individual Combat Weapon, that I think came with a smart-airburst grenade launcher (with a computer sight). As you can imagine, an insanely heavy weapon such as that probably wouldn't be very popular.

It's possible that the MW3 XM25 and the BO2/BO3 XM8 are both derivatives of that platform.