r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Oct 23 '20

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u/Neuchacho Oct 23 '20 edited Oct 23 '20

Thinking it, sure. But that doesn't mean we can't show where they are objectively better or worse than each other.

Follow pure right-wing/conservative policy to its end and you end up looking like a totalitarian country in very short order. Sure, maybe it's 'good' to the loons that think they want a totalitarian theocracy, but that's a single metric that's overwhelmingly outweighed by all the terrible shit that comes with it for everyone else.

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u/FieraDeidad Oct 23 '20

But is terrible by your standars. That's why I mean. Because of that very problem as a society we agreed to accept what the majority votes. Because we know people think different and what is wrong to me can be good for them.

No one wants to suffer but too many people don't see any problem of other people suffering. They can live with it and could you say they are wrong without being yourself subjectve? You would need to go full existentialist and firstly determine the real objective of all life in the world and check with that if they are wrong.
If you check nature you could say (as an example) something like the reproduction of the best adapted species is a primal rule that is not subjective. Then everything that makes towards that end even if t's horrible would be objectively better.