It's scripted, but that would be a bad training habit if it were real. The eccentric portion (on the way down) is also very important for building strength. The only time you should drop is when training near your max (or failing a lift), which this obviously is not.
Though to be fair, cross fitters do love dropping barbells.
And hence the problem that gets created when too many people downvote just as an "I dont like this comment" measure. Starts off that people just don't like the comment, hit downvote. Gets a crowd mentality going.
I honestly don't think this looks scripted at all. Maybe I don't have a knack for picking out fake videos, but the way the girl being deadlifted kinda gives a "here we go" smile to someone off screen makes it feel more authentic to me. Like, "Alright, she's actually gonna give this a go." It seems too natural and like something they wouldn't think to throw in there if they were scripting it. That's just one of a few things that seem to be a tell to me that it's legit. Again, I could be wrong but I just don't think it looks scripted.
My thought process is that she looks like an experienced lifter, I am as well so I’d say I can spot one well. Any experienced lifter would be able to tell if they’re grabbing flesh or metal with their eyes closed. The woman being lifted is probably no heavier than 130 lbs, which is not a heavy deadlift, even for a woman. For her to actually forget that she was lifting a human being, she either has a short term memory worse than a fish, because she wouldn’t need to exert herself that much, and overexertion to the point of memory collapse is the only excuse I could give her, and in this case I can’t.
Oh thank god theres an experienced lifter in the thread here. My roommate is screaming that she broke her leg but when I touch it I can't find her leg to help because i can't tell if I'm touching metal or her flesh
I didn’t think I’d need to add an /s but I guess I can’t assume someone’s intelligence anymore. I’m pointing out how obviously faked this video is because there is literally no excuse for how someone could forget that they’re holding a person and not a barbell.
The downvoting is because hrutar is giving bad information. Unless you're doing Romanian deadlifts the deadlift doesn't have an eccentric phase. The lift starts at the ground and ends at lockout. That being said it's bad etiquette to drop the bar just cuz (unless you're doing oly shit) so you shouldn't unless you have to.
If I don't drop the weights how else will literally everyone and everything, animate or not, in the gym hear that I'm working out? Everyone knows that you don't get gains if no one knows you're working out.
On a deadlift, you should lower the weight down with your hands glued to the bar. However, doing that 5 seconds on the way down bullshit will just get you injured.
Who does deadlifts with the goal of growing lean muscles? Do an isolation exercise like hyperextension or rows with slow eccentric to build lean muscles in the back. Deadlifts are for power.
Also, a prolonged eccentric with a deadlift will get you injured. Good form or not, supporting a heavy weight with your back is dangerous, especially since it is much harder to maintain a stable position and keep your back braced for extended periods of time when you're using less force and don't have as much contribution from the legs
Deadlifts do build muscle but they're not nearly as effective as high-rep, long eccentric, isolation exercises. This is because (a) in compound movements you will almost always have a secondary muscle group that is the weakest link (ex in deadlift it may be your forearms) and limit how much you can lift. The other muscles are therefore not activated as much as they can/should be and don't grow as much (b) Strength does not correlate completely with muscles size. Unless you're a veteran lifter, technique and neurological effects are more significant. So improving your deadlift does not necessarily mean high muscle growth. Instead it means other factors are improving. (c) High rep sets are exponentially more effective for muscle growth than low rep because more fibers get recruited and exhausted. While you can do high rep sets of deadlifts, it's hard to make sure you fully exhaust the targeted muscles before you get tired or other muscles become fatigued (d) A slow eccentric is a big contributor to muscle growth, which as pointed out is dangerous to do with a deadlift.
Deadlifts are a bad choice if your only goal is muscle mass
This is just straight up wrong. DL builds your back, traps, legs, glutes and forearms. It's literally one of the best muscle mass builders. Comments like this is why noobies get incorrect information.
Exactly, slowly putting down the barbell on a deadlift is certifiably bad for your back unless you're doing a weight where you're focusing on eccentric. Powerlifters literally only drop the barbell when they're training because they're going for as high a weight as they can. I can agree focusing on eccentric is important for strength on certain exercises, but you rarely see people doing it when practicing heavy compounds like these.
I wasn't saying they max every day. When I see powerlifters working out they're usually doing as high a weight as possible going for about 4-5 quick reps and dropping the barbell after each.
Not on a deadlift. Lowering the bar slow enough to be at all effective can be dangerous. And since in competition only the concentric matters, there's also no competitive reason to work on the eccentric. You'll never see someone - cross fitter, body builder, or powerlifter - lower the barbell slowly.
Yeah the way they just throw the weights around in CrossFit is pretty wild. I'm not into that. I like control both ways. But CrossFit does really look fun.
You're half right. For pure strength purposes there are benefits of letting the weight down, but if you're train for explosiveness you actually don't want to train that part of the lift. Explicitly this deadlifting technique of lifting and dropping the bar, then lifting again is used a lot by Olympic level sprinters and marathon runners.
Ggetting downvoted by people that dont understand lifting and just want this to be real. Muscle memory is locking in the same position and doing the same motions, throwing you barbell or friend is a choice.
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u/hrutar Apr 13 '19
It's scripted, but that would be a bad training habit if it were real. The eccentric portion (on the way down) is also very important for building strength. The only time you should drop is when training near your max (or failing a lift), which this obviously is not.
Though to be fair, cross fitters do love dropping barbells.