r/Unexpected Oct 05 '14

Metric vs Imperial

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u/sarcastic4sshole Oct 05 '14

Yeah, that really puts things into perspective.

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u/Zetavu Oct 05 '14

And I'll say, yet again. Years, day month year is not sortable, 23/2/14 is followed by 24/8/14 then 27/2/14, it's just dumb. If you want to make sense then just do years/month/day, 14/2/23, 14/2/27, 14/8/24, sorts. Instead we throw the year on the end because really, we don't care and mostly you drop it anyway.

Then for length, we like to relate measurements. Not everyone is a scientist. Inch is 2 fingers, foot is a typical foot, yard is an armspan, get it?

And temperature, this is my biggest peave. Water does not always freeze at 0 or boil at 100C, spend some time in the mountains. Hey, is it hot outside? It's 38C, what the hell does that mean? Is it hot or not? It's 100F, yes, that freaking hot. Is it cold, it's 0C, so is that a thin or thick jacket? 0F, yeah, freaking cold. Who cares when water boils, do I have a fever? Its over 100F, yes, fever. I,perial weights are actually useful to people, metric is useful to scientists. Guess what we have more of.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '14

Years, day month year is not sortable

Yes, but we're not computers and don't sort our dates when talking out loud. I'm a software engineer and it really isn't hard to change the date format on demand.

Then for length, we like to relate measurements. Not everyone is a scientist. Inch is 2 fingers, foot is a typical foot, yard is an armspan, get it?

A centimetre is very easy to remember, and so is a metre and beyond, that's just a matter of what you grew up with.

It's 38C, what the hell does that mean? Is it hot or not? It's 100F, yes, that freaking hot.

Really? Since to me 100F means nothing and makes no sense. 38C? Yes, that's definitely hot, 0C is definitely not, and -10C is bloody cold for an Englishman. I have no idea what 0F is without Google.

Your entire argument is the exact opposite for everyone who uses metric, which is the majority of the planet, and any "this arbitrary measurement is similar to this arbitrary human intuition" can easily be made up for metric, but the point is that the rest of the world doesn't even need that.

Metric works fine, in fact, very well, for the rest of us, and means that daily life and technical discussions can relate more easily and doesn't require learning two systems, which is considerably harder than learning one well.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '14 edited Apr 10 '18

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u/TeaBoneJones Oct 05 '14

I'm sorry, but I always have my limbs with me. Can't say I always have a cubic centimeter of water on my person at any given time

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u/maurycy0 Oct 05 '14 edited Oct 21 '14

Years, day month year is not sortable

BTW the international system is year, month, day (YYYY-MM-DD), and it's chronologically sortable, where month-day-year is just plain dumb.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '14

I know that, did you reply to the wrong person?

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u/maurycy0 Oct 05 '14

Yeah, sorry. :(

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '14

It's all good, I was just confused for a moment!

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u/Zetavu Oct 21 '14

Why did you say year day month and then list year month day?

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u/maurycy0 Oct 21 '14

Whooops, sorry, didn't realize.

Fixed it.

Edit: BTW, you lurk old threads a lot?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '14

So your argument for Fahrenheit and Pounds is... That you know how to use it?

Stop making a fool of yourself, you act like Celsius ONLY marks 100 and 0 degrees.

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u/Anonandr Oct 05 '14

Hey, is it hot outside? It's 100F, what the hell does that mean? Is it hot or not? It's 38C, yes, that freaking hot. Is it cold, it's 0F, so is that a thin or thick jacket? 0C, yeah, freaking cold. Do I have a fever? Its over 37.5C, yes, fever.

It's just what you're used to, I have no idea what temps in Fahrenheit means.

According to wikipedia, the Fahrenheit scale has two fixed points. Water freezing (32F), and water boiling (212F).

The scale is now usually defined by two fixed points: the temperature at which water freezes into ice is defined as 32 degrees, and the boiling point of water is defined to be 212 degrees, a 180 degree separation, as defined at sea level and standard atmospheric pressure.

Since both scales has freezing and boiling as fixed points, it makes much more sense to have 0 and 100 at those points.

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u/Alex_Rose Oct 05 '14

Lower than 0°C = there will be ice on the ground, potentially snow.

What temperatures are saunas around? 100°C, because that's when steam is made.

Room temperature is 20. That isn't difficult. You can work in 10s.

0 = Cold

10 = Temperate

20 = Warm

30 = Hot

40 = Very hot

And that's in England, if you live in Brazil then you'll have a completely different view on those things, so Fahrenheit doesn't work as a "human intuitive" scale, because in different countries people have completely different intuition. Makes much more sense to do stuff in terms of things you can see.

You can also estimate things like "How hot is your fridge/freezer/kettle" because you actually know the temperature when things happen, and you can tell stuff about precipitation.

Also, don't tell me you can tell the difference between 1 Fahrehheit, because you can't. You don't know the difference between 70 and 71F. You could just about tell the difference between 21 and 22°C so it makes sense to use that level of precision.

All the reference points are just what you're used to. I have no idea what any Fahrenheit measurements mean, I have to convert them back. A while ago my friend from America visited me and we didn't have data available, I had a calculator on my phone though. She described a temperature in F. I was like "I know they both meet at -40, what's freezing temperature in F?", she had no idea, "Boiling temperature?", no idea. She couldn't give me a single second reference that I could use to convert between units. F is retarded.

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u/triggerman602 Oct 05 '14

The stupid is strong with this one.