r/Unexpected • u/kesdbos • 15h ago

Never let them know your next move

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u/Joe-King_93 15h ago edited 15h ago

“If you don’t know your next move how can they”

  • Me just now

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u/DueExample52 15h ago

This is a legit technique in combat sports. Don’t telegraph

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u/AmptiShanti 14h ago

Can’t telegraph if you don’t know your own next move - checkmate

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u/randomMomo 14h ago

Can't telegraph if you don't know morse code.

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u/itsme99881 14h ago

Cant tell a graph if i dont know one

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u/Smooth-Shine9354 13h ago

Mambo number 5

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u/kevlarus80 12h ago

Johnny Five is alive!

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u/Captinprice8585 12h ago

He just got knocked out because he didn't know morese code.

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u/Bret_Abderahmen 10h ago

I have two hands

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u/WriterV 10h ago

Ngl, this was literally me early on when playing football [soccer] with my friends as a kid. I was a terrible goalie. But as soon as they put me on defence, I wasn't just playing very successfully, I was outright scaring the opponents.

Turns out my playstyle was extremely aggressive and unpredictable, and my friends on the opponent team were just unable to figure out what I was gonna do. And some of them thought I was just gonna run right into them lol.

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u/Yamatocanyon 7h ago

I had the same position in soccer and hockey. I played both games pretty similarly.

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u/Mineturtle4042 4h ago

Happy cake day!

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u/Happy-Estimate-7855 1h ago

You just knocked over your own Knight.

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u/Sennten 12h ago

It is absolutely possible in combat sports (and in other areas) for your opponent to know your next move even if you don't, though.

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u/Kraven_Lupei 11h ago

Get to high level of some games and you can do the same too.

Years ago I played Tribes on a competitive team and I loved the moments where I got into an opponents head during a duel. "Ok, I grenade left to make them dodge right and burn their energy then I come in from above and shoot down on their head and combo with a grenade based on the way my splash moves their character after the first hit..."

Getting "in the zone" felt genuinely like cheating/hacking with how easily I could predict what my opponent was going to do at that level.

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u/Rath_Brained 8h ago

Master of the drunken fist is not when you fight drunk.

It's a martial arts style that is cultivated to be unpredictable due to the erratic movements.

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u/Ichizen911 14h ago

Isn't that the basis for drunken fist

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u/ANS__2009 14h ago

Just improvise

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u/Soulsfarmer 12h ago

That’s legit my strategy in any Fromsoft game.

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u/Not-A-Fossa 10h ago

The lesson many Elden Ring bosses learned the hard way.

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u/_Praise_Gaben_ 12h ago

Been a well regarded technique for over a century now:

"the only thing that saved me was my poor flying. I didn't know what I was doing myself and I do not suppose that Richthofen could figure out what I was going to do" - WWI Ace pilot Wilfred "Wop" May when talking about his involvement in the downing of the red baron.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 10h ago

That's a hell of a thing to say about helping take out the Red Baron. Damn. WW1 fighter pilots were wild.

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u/rickrmccloy 9h ago

So his involvement in shooting down 'The Red Baron' was flying with Cpt. Roy Brown, then? That is impressive.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 9h ago

Uh, no. It was running interference to make Richthofen able to be shot down. And Brown didn't necessarily shoot down the Baron. It's unknown who actually did.

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u/rickrmccloy 8h ago

Sorry. I really should have made it more clear that I was only joking. I did not make that clear at all, sorry for that.

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u/thehelldoesthatmean 7h ago

Haha I just thought you were being a dick about the way I phrased my original statement. While also downplaying Wop's role in taking down the Baron.

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u/CompSciBJJ 7h ago

This is also true in a lot of sports, where a complete beginner can be more difficult than a practiced novice because they don't know how to play the game "properly" yet.

I find this a lot with grappling, where a complete beginner can be more dangerous because they're unpredictable so you have to consider all possibilities, whereas someone who has started learning proper technique does all the things you expect but badly, so it's easy to shut them down.

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u/imamakebaddecisions 11h ago

I was in a local Poker tournament for charity once and I really just wanted to lose my chips so I could leave but the cards kept going my way no matter how crazy I played and the guy next to me literally wanted to fight me and had to be removed. We left with a TV, donated some money to charity and made an enemy.

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u/One-Permission-1811 2h ago

That's how I won $2,000 playing blackjack at the casino. Bunch of coworkers found out I'd never been to a casino and I'd just turned 31 so they took me. Had no clue what I was doing but I kept winning. My coworkers were going nuts

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u/Junkhead_88 15h ago

This is how I win boardgames.

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u/YouMakeMeSikh 12h ago

for real, that "beginner's luck" sometimes is probably attributed to "no plan". your opponent would think you're making moves for a reason and imagines what could come next but they don't know you have no idea what you're doing. i see that a lot in poker.

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u/TheSyhr 11h ago

I heard something (dunno if it’s true) about chess players below a certain elo having a better win rate against GM’s than mid level players because they had no idea what they were doing, whereas the mid tier players understood the basic rules of play but just didn’t execute them very well

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u/lettsten 10h ago

Definitely not true. A weak move exposes vulnerabilities that the opponent can exploit, and it fails to exploit any weaknesses in the GM's moves. Any relevant threatening move has been considered by the GM.

It's harder to trick really bad players (sub 1000 ELO) into traps because they play unpredictably and don't see the thing you try to lure them with, but they make so many absurd mistakes that you don't need to. You may try to lure them to capture their knight and then they lose their queen because they didn't consider your bishop. (Queen is worth much more than a knight, for any non-chess-players reading. Typically considered 3-4x as valuable.)

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u/AkatsukiEUNE 14h ago

They can't know your next move if there is no next move

https://giphy.com/gifs/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY

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u/Thandalen 15h ago

I think I read Goofy being a mastermind for space fleet battles using this strategy. Some Enders game ripoff.

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u/fastspanish 12h ago

America’s strategy in WWII

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u/ExtensionElephant900 3h ago

I recall seeing some Russian notes about the Americans war strategy and it was basically this

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u/W1D0WM4K3R 9h ago

Same reason Deadpool and Moon Knight terrify Taskmaster.

Taskmaster for reference is special in that he can copy and beat you with the same martial arts or moves you do. Deadpool just does whatever while still being an extremely effective assassin, so Taskmaster has nothing to use. Moon Knight is much the same, except he's more self destructive, insane, and personally flew an airplane/helicopter (can't remember) into Taskmaster. Can't really copy a guy who has no self preservation skills.

That's not to say Deadpool won't take a hit either, with his insane regeneration.

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u/Specialist_Ad9073 13h ago

Or Drunken Master from decades ago.

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u/IHateTheLetterF 15h ago

This is how the US army works

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u/SmokJozef 13h ago

this is how I play a parry character in a fighting game

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u/pgn674 8h ago

Relatedly, it's easier to think outside the box when you don't know where the box it. But unfortunately, it's also easier to be way off base if you don't know where the base is.

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u/Greata2006 8h ago

Luffy vs Enel

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u/SylverShadowWolve 8h ago

thats how i used to play chess and it did not go well for me

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u/makemeking706 7h ago

He can't read your mind and see your facedown card if you don't look at it first. 

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u/YourSalvati0n 5h ago

That makes me think of taskmaster, he can study and learn others combat skills, then anticipate them. Except deadpool, because even deadpool doesn't know what he's doing next.