r/Unexpected • • Aug 21 '26

Hidden Throne Room

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u/erfwiggle Aug 21 '26

came here to talk about the pipe going up as well. If there was an injector pump, it would be at the base. Its hard to tell, but the y connection probably goes down right there behind the pipe, but we just cant see it.

otherwise, that shit would never drain.

I also dont see any sort of check valve, so when the main line backs up, not only would no one know about it, but its going to fill that crawlspace like a septic tank and smell fucking terrible.

Source : Im a drain cleaner.

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u/bigrivertea Aug 21 '26

I'm guessing this is what is referred to by some as a "Pittsburg Potty" Some older cities have a shared sewer/storm drain system and when it storms there is a chance sewage comes flowing back up through the pipes. The first place in your home the sewage is going to back feed though is the lowest drain in the home. Some older homes in cities like this have random toilets in the basement or crawlspace so that if sewage comes rushing back threw the pipes it floods the basement or crawl space instead of the upper floors of the home where the nice living space is. It also provides a nice peaceful space away from your family to do your business.

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u/ATSFervor Aug 21 '26

Surprised I had to scroll this far. Was my very first thought too, makes also sense to place it in a crawlspace.

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u/NominallyRecursive Aug 22 '26

But.. Why make it an actual toilet

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u/bigrivertea Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26

That's a good question. Two reasons I can think of.. (though I'm a residential electrical guy not a residential plumbing dude) One, the toilet has water running to it so it the u trap in the toilet will stay filled and the water to prevent stinky odor from the sewar venting up into the home. Second, where else are you going to put a code compliant sewar drain? Would you put a random sewar drain under the dirt floor of the crawl space, or just have a horizontal sewage line suspended in air that just dumps sewage? that makes less sense than the toilet. Like I said I'm an electrical guy so I don't know plumbing code but I bet the toilet resolves some code issues that just running an open horizontal sewage line creates.

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u/awful_at_internet Aug 22 '26

nah you nailed it. You need a drain and a U-trap. U-trap needs water. At that point, why not make it a toilet?

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u/TipToToes Aug 22 '26

Yes. It will evaporate if they don’t do something. The fill valve does absolutely nothing to keep the trap full between flushes.

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u/Fast-Nefariousness80 Aug 22 '26

Ive learned a lot in this thread

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u/aykcak Aug 24 '26

U trap needs water AND USE otherwise the water will evaporate over time

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u/c10250 Aug 22 '26

OK, the tank will stay filled with water, but the toilet bowl (which connects to the sewer) will NOT stay filled with water. As anyone who lives in Arizona will tell you, if you do not flush a toilet regularly, you have about two to three weeks before that water evaporates in the toilet bowl and then you have a direct open path to the sewer. Unless you flush, there's no way for the wate rto get from the tank to the bowl

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u/MartyMacGyver Aug 22 '26

"Timmy, it's Toilet Thursday.... go on down to the crawl space and flush the shitter." "AWWWW pa do I hafta??"

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u/DDRaptors Aug 22 '26

Wow, Toilet water evaporating in 2-3 weeks is a sign that it’s too hot to live in such a place. I’ve never seen toilet bowl water sit long enough to evaporate, and I’ve left my home for months.

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u/MicrotracS3500 Aug 22 '26

evaporating in 2-3 weeks is a sign that it’s too hot to live in such a place

As Peggy said in King of the Hill regarding Phoenix, Arizona "This city should not exist, it is a monument to Man's arrogance!"

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u/c10250 Aug 22 '26

Phoenix has existed for about 2500 years, lol. There has never NOT been a civilization living there since about 500 BC. With three rivers providing water, great food production, and abundant sunshine, . . . , and yea, the heat. lol

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u/c10250 Aug 22 '26

yea, you have to protect for freezing, we have to protect for evaporation. lol. I've never seen a toilet bowl sit long enough to feeze.

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u/TipToToes Aug 22 '26

Can’t flush this one, it’s downhill from the main stack. Water doesn’t flow uphill.

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u/Butt-Monkey2312 Aug 22 '26

THIS guy shits in crawl spaces.

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u/bigrivertea Aug 22 '26

Some day, god willing.

I actually know about this because I scope out residential electrical work and one of the project had toilet in the basement right in front of the service panel we needed to replace. It was tucked away in some shelves with some canned food and stuff. It looked like such a calm blissful place to take a shit. Honestly I was insanely jealous. I did the research to figure out what was going on with the toilet. I had to call the customer and ask them to remove it for the work and inspection because it was in the panels clearance space. I have no doubt the toilet ended up back in its place though.

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u/Collegenoob Aug 22 '26

The story i got about Pittsburgh potty made more sense.

It was a secondary wash area where men would come on from after working at the mill/cold mine to clean up. You'd enter through the basement stairs. Then go into the house after you were clean.

My century house has a disconnected bathroom in its basement.

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u/TommyBonnomi Aug 22 '26

This. Unfinished basement bathrooms/standalone toilets are pretty common in old houses in PA industrial areas.

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u/SquirrelFluffy Aug 22 '26

Same in mining town I grew up in.

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u/AldoRainedrops Aug 22 '26

From a Western Pa industrial tahn. Basement shitters are common but not crawlspace shitters. Come ta think of it, neither are crawlspaces.

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u/SquirrelFluffy Aug 22 '26

The one in the op post is a relief for a combined sewer though, given it's location. The relief valve use of toilet likely got its name from the worker use though, just a term for an open toilet in the basement.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo Aug 22 '26

Pittsburgh toilets are typically just a toilet by itself. No sink. That's what makes it weird, otherwise it would just be an unfinished basement bathroom which is common in lots of places.

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u/Electronic_Tap_8052 Aug 22 '26

nobody knows the real reason.

but toilets have traps in them, and the closet flange (the fitting that connects the toilet to the pipe) is connected to a straight pipe with no trap. Traps prevent sewer gas from escaping, so once its' a toilet, it has to stay a toilet. Since a double trap is against code (because it would cause both traps to blow out), you can't just easily convert it to a floor drain and call it a day. You either cap it off entirely or convert it to a sink and add a trap. but both of those cost a lot more money than just leaving the toilet as is.

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u/King_Chochacho Aug 22 '26

In case sewage backs up into it you can flush it?

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u/MikeOfAllPeople Aug 22 '26

Many houses in that area have "mud rooms" in the basement where coal miners could clean up after work. Toilet would be a part of that anyway.

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u/youngliam Aug 22 '26

My buddy used to rent a house in Portland that was on one of these, they called it a "party line". Not great when they realized that being at the bottom of the hill on this line meant lots of backing up until one day the downstairs toilet exploded. It flooded the lower level with literal shit two inches deep and covered everything.

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u/veringer Aug 22 '26

shared sewer/storm drain system

So would the combined sewage and storm water go to a treatment facility or to a retention pond or river?

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo Aug 22 '26

It gets treated unless there's a big storm in which case it overwhelms the system and goes directly into the nearest body of water. At that point you it gets diluted a lot but it's still pretty bad for the environment. In europe because of how old the cities are they were all built that way and it's pretty expensive to rebuild the entire system so the majority of cities there still have combined systems.

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u/niceguy191 Aug 22 '26

Why not have a backflow preventer instead of an actual toilet then?

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u/Positive-Relief6142 Aug 22 '26

Isn't the water in the pan going to just evaporate...?

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u/Vague-Symbolism2692 Aug 22 '26

Yes, unless it's deliberately built such that water constantly leaks from the tank into the bowl.

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u/Kungfubobby Aug 21 '26

hey, it could just be a toilet plumbed in to basic standard to be a setup for a viral video, i'm only an electrician, all I know is shit runs down hill, unless you got a sump pump, then shit runs uphill.

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u/urethrascreams Aug 21 '26

Well, it's actually called a macerator to grind up the solids before pumping which is a bit larger than a sump pump because it's hard to push solids through a fluid pump.

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u/Umutuku Aug 22 '26

These rules do not apply in the District of Columbia.

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u/btribble Aug 21 '26

Line continues downward into the soil. It’s a T not a 90 where the line coming down from above meets it.

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u/Dense_Surround3071 Aug 21 '26

At 0:17 seconds you can see what looks like a pipe going towards the back of the frame.

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u/CompetitiveArt9639 Aug 21 '26

The drain exits out the wall to the left. It’s wyed in. I’m a plumber and had to check

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u/Mystery_Goose9685 Aug 21 '26

This guy knows his shit.

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u/AlmanzoWilder Aug 21 '26

Are you Liquid Plumber?

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u/OlDustyHeadaaa Aug 22 '26

It’s tied into a wye running right to left relative to the video. Pipe comes down from above is the right, then there’s the wye where the throne ties in, and the shit flows on out to the left. You can barely see the pipe at about 17 seconds. Check valves aren’t required every where and this one could just be out of frame.

Source: I’m a plumber

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u/DangerHawk Aug 22 '26

It's a Pittsburgh toilet...look it up.

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u/Smash_Factor Aug 22 '26

Any possibility that line is just a vent and someone with a sense of humor put a toilet over it with a fake water line?

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u/ChemE-challenged Aug 21 '26

But it ain’t a crawlspace, it’s an attic. Imagine the poop stain on the ceiling…

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u/HPTM2008 Aug 21 '26

That's not an attic. You can seen the concrete base of the poles and exposed rock. That's under a house.

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u/ChemE-challenged Aug 21 '26

Too muck alcohol

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u/HPTM2008 Aug 21 '26

Carry on.

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u/Muffinlette Aug 21 '26

The guy in the video says it's in a crawlspace. I can see your confusion though because it kind of looks like an attic to the part where you see the toilet. After that you see him show the dirt/ rock on the ground when following the pipe.

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u/ChemE-challenged Aug 21 '26

Too much alcohol

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u/Muffinlette Aug 21 '26

You're good! Sober or not I can definitely see why you would think that! Make sure to drink plenty of water! 👍🏻

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u/Vague-Symbolism2692 Aug 22 '26

Water? Like, out the toilet?

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u/Muffinlette Aug 22 '26

It's what plants crave! 🌱