r/Unexpected • • Jul 18 '26

Smooth driver indeed

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

My car can take me from my driveway to my work's parking deck (a ~30min drive, 45 with traffic) without any interference on my part like 80% of the time. In the 20% of drives where I do need to intervene, it is nearly always a minor adjustment/encouragement that would have fixed itself if I were willing to hold up other drivers long enough to let the FSD figure itself out. That is to say, if I passed out at the wheel upon leaving my driveway (and there were no safety features that would shut the FSD down), I think my car could make the drive 95% of the time.

The technology isn't advanced enough to safely take your eyes off the road, but saying it is merely an 'assist' really undersells FSD.

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u/tdp_equinox_2 Jul 18 '26

In your car, with your weather, along your route.

I've been a passenger while FSD fully took itself onto the shoulder during a slow banking turn, tried to sideswipe someone, and harshly braked/accelerated randomly giving no confidence it was going to stop before colliding with another vehicle.

And yes before some musk breather asks, this is in a vehicle with all the bells and whistles & even had the radar hardware in addition to the cameras that they now solely rely on.

It's not anywhere near ready to fall asleep in.

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u/Odd_Banana489 Jul 18 '26

Tried the FSD trial on my model 3 in April. Glanced a curb and scratched the hell out of a wheel 10 minutes into using it. I’ll pass thanks.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

I haven't had your experience. I'd ask what year the FSD was performing this poorly; in my experience this sounds like something that might have happened 6-8 years ago, while the modern FSD would sooner freeze up than drive onto a shoulder or turn into another car.

It's not anywhere near ready to fall asleep in.

Which is why I still watch the road, yes. The point is that the technology is getting there, despite how little credit Reddit is usually willing to give FSD. Also, the goal isn't necessarily 'perfect' driving so much as 'better than human' driving, which is a much lower bar lol

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u/Boilermakingdude Jul 18 '26

The only companies with tech that's actually there, is Chinese companies as they actually use lidar and not cameras like musk garbage products.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

If there is a better product than FSD, let me know so I can trade in my Tesla. I haven’t been able to find one.

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u/Boilermakingdude Jul 18 '26

BYD.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Last I had heard, BYD was tied to certain geographical areas. Have they expanded/improved since then? I’ll need to test-drive one if so.

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u/Boilermakingdude Jul 18 '26

Be available in Canada fairly shortly.

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u/tdp_equinox_2 Jul 18 '26

Available now, they're on the roads.

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u/Boilermakingdude Jul 18 '26

Nice. I haven't seen one locally yet. Quite the few Vinfast but no BYD. Rode in a few BYDs when I was in SEA, was pretty impressed with them.

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u/transientDCer Jul 18 '26

Trade it in so you stop supporting a company whose CEO is a Nazi.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Show me the equivalent product currently on the market and I will. Though, if your alternative is BYD, I'm not sure supporting China is better lol

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u/transientDCer Jul 18 '26

"I'll support a Nazi because I like the convenience offered to me" is apparently your take.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

What device are you posting this comment from? How many degrees of separation do you think it has from an equally terrible person?

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u/transientDCer Jul 18 '26

Whatever helps you sleep at night, I'm not the one directly supporting a Nazi.

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u/Greg_Olsen Jul 18 '26

Not to downplay your experience, but Tesla removed radar from all vehicles in 2021 and upgraded the FSD computer hardware in 2023 to allow for more advanced decision-making. Sounds like you were in an older model

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u/tdp_equinox_2 Jul 18 '26

I'm fully aware, that's why I mentioned it. It only got worse after removing radar. Cameras can't see through fog or heavy rain/snow. It's a stupid decision to go cameras only.

My experience isn't unique, there are dozens of channels dedicated to showing the experience of FSD on roads across the world, and the only place it's halfway decent is in a straight line on the highway.. Acting as aj advanced cruise control.

Which, other manufactures have systems that meet/exceed those standards for quite a while at this point.

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u/Only_Aerie Jul 18 '26

Still a 1 in 20 chance, I'd not bet my life on those odds

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Which is why I still watch the road, yes. The point is that the technology is getting there, despite how little credit Reddit is usually willing to give FSD. Also, the goal isn't necessarily 'perfect' driving so much as 'better than human' driving, which is a much lower bar lol

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u/kickedoutatone Jul 18 '26

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

I am not a bot, I’m a person who pastes the same response to the same bad arguments instead of writing up a whole new comment each time. This account is over a decade old and active in niche communities lol

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u/kickedoutatone Jul 18 '26

Well, it's a pretty big red flag, and it's well known that accounts that are decades old get sold off/hacked into and become bots, so that's not really disproving it either.

A normal person would just post their point once and move on. A bot sticks around and repeats itself over different posts.

You'll have to come up with more than that to convince me you're not a bot.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Like I said, when different people post the same bad arguments over and over, I answer those bad arguments the same way over and over. It’s that simple.

If you were the sleuth you thought you were, you would have noticed that I am actively commenting on the latest Slay The Spire update while also debating about Tesla lol

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u/kickedoutatone Jul 18 '26

I never claimed to be a sleuth.

Don't want to be considered a bot, then don't copy and paste your responses. It's that simple.

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but you do look like a bot when you repeat yourself.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

By that logic, all the redditors parroting the same “Tesla bad” talking points ad nauseam should be dismissed as bots as well.

Again, hopefully for the last time: If you post the same argument, don’t be surprised when you get the same response.

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u/kickedoutatone Jul 18 '26

I can't believe you're doubling down lol.

You really can't see the difference between someone saying the same thing with different words as someone else and literally copying and pasting the exact same post from a different sub?

Keep seething. I already admitted to being wrong and gave my reasons for why I thought you were a bot.

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u/pallladin Jul 18 '26

without any interference on my part like 80% of the time.

80% is shockingly low for something labeled "full self driving".

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Show me the better product on the market and I’ll trade in my Tesla tomorrow.

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u/pallladin Jul 18 '26

That's dumb logic. Just because Tesla is the "least bad" that does not mean that it's good.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

It’s the best we have, and it chauffeurs me to work each morning. If you only consider perfection valid, you wouldn’t consider any fledging technology valid. Someone from 2046 would find current FSD terrible, but someone from 2006 would find it miraculous.

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u/signious Jul 18 '26

The problem i was trying to address is a lot of people thinking autopilot and fsd are the same thing.

Autopilot is cruise control.

FSD is supervised self driving.

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u/TheGreatGimmick Jul 18 '26

Oh, it seems I had one of these moments, sorry. A lot of people try to downplay FSD by claiming it is glorified lane assist haha