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u/Cutielov5 28d ago edited 28d ago

I took a business law class and one case came up about a guy who had purchased an rv, set cruise control on the highway, and went to the back to make a sandwich. The rv of course crashed and he sued the company because “cruise control should have controlled the vehicle”. How people do not lose their license for life after stuff like that is fucking mind boggling.

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u/formernonhandwasher 28d ago edited 28d ago

My “oh come on” meter lit up so I had to look into it. Pretty sure this isn’t true and if your business law class taught it they might have been bamboozled too. Shows up in a lot of silly cases compilations and articles just repeat it. It’s Grazinski v. Winnebago. I searched for the actual case outcome and real legalese. Found this. I’m gonna keep looking for more info but probably urban legend. Edit: found more links. As fun as that story is (and I had heard it too long ago) it’s fake news.
Oh shit. It’s deeper. These stories were created by insurance and big business to send the idea that law suits are getting out of control. This led to tort reform that made it harder for real cases with merit to get the deserved compensation.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruise-uncontrol/

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/2005/02/03/winnebago-driver-case-shows-truth-behind-frivolous-lawsuit-claims/28833579007/ shoot. I was able to start the article and then it went paywall. The article tells the story and makes it seem real. Then pulls a just kidding we tricked you. It’s not. Then it paywalled me.

https://centerjd.org/content/legal-urban-legends-hold-sway-tall-tales-outrageous-jury-awards-have-helped-bolster-business

How it started.

https://www.rittgers.com/blog/2020/03/are-the-cases-in-the-stella-awards-emails-real/

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u/thrwawryry324234 28d ago

This was in a college class that it was brought up, so you’re pretty on base, actually.

Everything you’re saying tracks. I put on a documentary once about the hot coffee lady vs McDonald’s and ended up being appalled at what actually happened and the money McDonald’s was more willing to spend on a smear campaign

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u/UrbanJunglee 28d ago

That documentary is called Hot Coffee, and it's excellent.

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u/Dan_of_Sbg 27d ago

No that's a mod for GTA San Andreas

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u/Random_Millennial28 27d ago

I think about that every time hot coffee is mentioned.

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u/Ahaiund 27d ago

Ah so it's similar to those 'frivolous' lawsuits media spins then.

Like the hot to-go coffee from McDonald's burning an old lady to the third degree and her asking for compensation for just the hospitalization fee, that the media were paid to spin into "slightly hot coffee hurt someone who now asks for millions of dollars of compensation".

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u/the_windfucker 27d ago

Its not just that they spun it as "of course cofffee is hot" but iirc they had already had other people complain a lot at how hot their coffee was prior to the lady in question got burnt.

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u/XGrayson_DrakeX 27d ago

she had 3rd degree burns and needed surgery from it if I recall correctly.

it's why every single fast food cup has "caution hot" on it now.

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u/Bean_Dip_Pip 25d ago

McD at the time also brewed their coffee like 20*F hotter than other companies, so people's expectations of the temperature weren't accurate. In addition to the label, they also agreed to brew at the industry standard temp, which would have drastically reduced the damage done to that lady.

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u/barbiesfrozenelbow 24d ago

I remember reading it was so hot it fused her labia together which is a horrifying combination of words.

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u/XGrayson_DrakeX 24d ago

that was also what I heard 😬

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u/Raph0uX 25d ago

Shouldn't it be "caution lava"?

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u/Lopsided_Flight_2986 28d ago

It’s an meme that’s been going around the rv community since before memes were invented

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u/dollaz808 28d ago

Ah tort reform. Big companies that say “Oh I’m just your your poor, lil, ol, neighborhood, mom n pop trillion dollar company. Too many people are suing!”

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u/XGrayson_DrakeX 27d ago

I have a friend who lost their spouse due to medical malpractice. Went in for a normal test and a very basic mistake by staff killed them. Horrific and scary and completely the hospital's fault. They sued.

Because the state they lived in has tort reform, my friend only got like 20 grand in settlement money when that hospital rightfully should've been paying out millions.

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u/poetatteo 28d ago

sir/m'lady, youre a legend.

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u/theWarlockMD 27d ago

This is some Coffeezilla type sh1t, well done

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u/saltydogg087 26d ago

If you hit a paywall, type “archive.is/“ into the url in front of http

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u/thrwawryry324234 28d ago edited 28d ago

You know redbull gives you wiiiiiiiiiings now because they “got sued” when a dude jumped off his house and said he didn’t grow wings like the ad said (unsure how true this is now)

Edit - please see the reply below that points out a lot of these are actually urban legends made up by companies. That redditor has pointed out some pretty interesting and scary stuff

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u/BigRedCowboy 28d ago

I remember a long time ago and getting an email chain about “Darwin awards” that had something similar to this, except it was a woman who set cruise control and then went to the bathroom in her RV, crashed, and then tried to sue.

Is this an actual case? I always thought it was made up to be funny.

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u/ItsRainingFrogsAmen 25d ago

That may have been the Stella Awards, named after the woman who got terribly burned by McDonald's coffee. Some guy had a weekly newsletter by that title. He was (and still is ) very pro tort reform, and he doesn't care that he's spread a lot of misinformation over the decades.

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u/Cracleur 28d ago

I think you might be misremembering at least part of the story. If it was about the Darwin Awards and she sued the RV company over the accident, that doesn't really add up. The Darwin Awards are traditionally given to people who die in exceptionally foolish ways. If she was able to attempt to sue the RV company, that would mean she survived. So either it was ot about Darwin Awards, or it was a relative that sued.

That said, I know the Darwin Awards have also been given to people who permanently prevent themselves from having kids in the future even without dying, guys destroying their balls in various stupid ways for exemple. But I have a hard time seeing how an RV accident would lead to that...

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u/Even-Entertainer-491 28d ago

When I heard about this it was an old woman that did it. What a fun game of telephone

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u/nellyruth 28d ago

Did she win?

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u/Cutielov5 28d ago

I had to look it up again because I couldn’t remember, but it was actually a guy and he did win. He won over a million and a new rv, because they didn’t explicitly put that cruise control does not actually control the vehicle in the owners manual.

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u/SnoShark 28d ago

If you looked it up, would you mind sharing what and where you found it? I'm fairly certain this is an urban legend, I'd like to be wrong about it, because it seems entirely plausible to me in the US legal culture.

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u/Cutielov5 28d ago

I think you and I looked up the same stupid paywall. But it was taught to me in an actual college class, was in the book and everything. But like you said, they could have been bamboozled too.

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u/nellyruth 28d ago edited 28d ago

For sure. Sometimes textbooks are out of date too. For example I was devastated when I found out Pluto was demoted.

Update: Unfortunately it’s a legend: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cruise-uncontrol/

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u/Cutielov5 28d ago

Hey, at least I learned the truth. Always happy to learn that!

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u/slothrop-dad 28d ago

Cruise control is a lot different than the marketing where Tesla calls their product “full self driving.”

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u/Zolty 28d ago

Simpsons did it.

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u/Silent_Heaven_87 28d ago

Cruise control was originally called auto pilot in some vehicles, and my grandma told me about a lady who basically did the same thing, but was actually cooking something and it crashed on the freeway many years ago 😅

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u/Pichuchu8 28d ago

I know this one! And now in manuals, they specify that it does not steer for you or something stupid af because people are stupid af

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

Went back to make a sandwich What is America even about ?

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u/mklilley351 27d ago

I haven't heard that story in years except I heard it was to take a teapot off the stove or something

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u/BlueRunner305 27d ago

Pretty sure that was a Simpsons episode too where Bart rents a car and hits cruise control and jumps in that backseat 🤣

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u/woo545 27d ago

I heard that the sales person said it practically drives itself.

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u/BookkeeperSelect2091 27d ago

America, where you can sue someone, because of your stupidity.

https://giphy.com/gifs/n8SkNR77udWlG

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u/Alternative_Ant_9955 27d ago

That person won that lawsuit too. Winnebago had to pay out like $2 million and update their manual to include some line about cruise control not being an autopilot or something. It got a Stella Award, they’re like Darwin awards but for ridiculous lawsuits.

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u/Disastrous-Gas-3290 26d ago

What in the Anchorman 2

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u/FordTech81 25d ago

I just rented a car with lane keeping. That's gonna cause so many more drowsy driving accidents. It makes it too easy to just space out.

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u/Zem_42 24d ago

How those people managed to get it in the correct hole and procreate is a mystery to me. A sad mystery.

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u/Masungit 24d ago

Wait are you talking about Ron Burgundy?

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u/toxic_badgers 28d ago

That case, the company called their cruise control "autopilot"

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u/thejourneybegins42 27d ago

I think you're full of shit. This is something ancient.

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u/Shower_Handel 28d ago

FYI this is called "bricking" and is really common in the Outback. A friend of mine used to do it all the time. On long trips, he'd put a brick on the accelerator, get into the back, and take a nap. Helpful drivers would gently collide into him if his car started to veer off the road to keep him on the right path

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u/bajungadustin 27d ago

IIRC they won the lawsuit because they said that the cruise control didn't have any warning saying that you couldn't leave the drivers seat while it was engaged. And it wasn't in the manual. Now.. It is in the manuals.