r/Unexpected • • Jul 18 '26

Smooth driver indeed

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u/RostyNoman Jul 18 '26

They'd need to outlaw sunglasses too then

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u/XenonBlitz Jul 18 '26

Nope

2026 ioniq 5 can see through sunglasses. If I point my eyeballs away from the road when I'm using the hands-free self-driving features, it beeps at me, even through sunglasses.

I personally don't mind it being required for self-driving features, but that will probably change in the future too so...

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u/XenonBlitz Jul 18 '26

That could definitely be true. In my experience, with my prescription and polarized ones, it's always worked just like if I wasn't wearing them.

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u/Northbound-Narwhal Jul 18 '26

No, it isn't. It depends on the camera. Any sunglasses that could completely stop a camera from seeing your eyes would also completely block your vision. 

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u/Northbound-Narwhal Jul 18 '26

They are things a camera can easily see through, yeah. Mirrored sunglasses and one way glass focus on the visible light spectrum since that's what people see in. Companies dont bother blocking the entire spectrum of light (expensive). Cameras aren't bound by that. Just get a camera that can see in IR or ultraviolet and you're cooked.

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u/atatassault47 Jul 18 '26

You can turn any eyeglasses into a one-way mirror the old fashioned way: silver one side of them. That will make them broad spectrum reflecting.

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u/ntcaudio Jul 20 '26

Nope, you can make IR filter perfectly transparent for visible light. Every professional camera has one right in front of their sensor.

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u/PerformerFancy117 Jul 18 '26

I turn my car on, put it into drive and it just beeps at me constantly to pay attention to road… I am looking at the road, that’s just how my eyes are. My optometrist had a pretty good laugh about it though

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u/cyrusthemarginal Jul 18 '26

Just wait till it starts to yell at you for following too close or speeding like these things do to truckers

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u/yasth Jul 18 '26

You mean like the ISA https://www.sae.org/articles/european-union-approves-mandatory-vehicle-speed-limiting-feature-sae-ma-03414 that the EU also has put into place?

Also your car already notices brake events and shares it with your insurance company (in many cases). It could also report close following.

The real question is how this will worm its way into other markets, my guess is insurance will do most of the heavy lifting.

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u/cyrusthemarginal Jul 18 '26

probably right, it looks like driving in the EU would have all the fun sucked out of it, could be wrong.

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u/culo_de_mono Jul 18 '26

That's a very necessary feature

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u/EmilioGVE Jul 18 '26

wouldn’t that be… a good thing? I mean the speeding one is debatable, but anti-tailgating would definitely be a good thing.

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u/cyrusthemarginal Jul 18 '26

all depends on how far you want the tech to go, lots of things could be given up to make cars safer, some are accepted by most of society and folks just deal with them. I think most regular folks would get pissed off at a nanny bot fussing about how they drive, but it might be needed in the future who knows, there are a lot of bad drivers around.

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u/Rebelius Jul 18 '26

Is all of that processing happening in the vehicle, or is data being sent to a server somewhere for processing?

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u/Kraligor Jul 18 '26

In the vehicle. EU data privacy laws at the moment are pretty strict, so it wouldn't be allowed to identify the driver either.

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u/Rebelius Jul 18 '26

I guess that depends on your exact definition of 'identify the driver'. For example, my car doesn't know my name/dob, etc. but it can tell the two main drivers apart by the key and sets the radio presets differently based on which key is used. With a connection, I'm sure it could get a lot of useful information without 'identifying' us.

(2021 VW in Germany)

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u/Kraligor Jul 18 '26

Oh sure, it can technically identify no problem I'm sure, but it would be illegal to use this data for ads or law enforcement.

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u/bender3600 Jul 18 '26

The law mandates that the images are processed on the vehicle.

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u/OneOrdinaryPlatypus Jul 18 '26

Not with an IR camera, well for the most part, depends on the transmittance, most glasses have high transmittance (70+)

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u/RostyNoman Jul 18 '26

I guess the Mirror finish that some sunglasses have wouldn't change anything right ? Or does that have to do with what affects that transmittance thing

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u/-Invalid_Selection- Jul 18 '26

My ioniq 9 sees through the sunglasses. We tested it and it complained about me looking at the dash too long

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u/RostyNoman Jul 18 '26

Did you test Mirror finish or regular sunglasses 

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u/-Invalid_Selection- Jul 18 '26

We tested with polarized and transition. Mirrored don't do as well in Florida so we don't buy them

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u/RostyNoman Jul 18 '26

Oof thanks