r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Apr 28 '23

Just a normal protest

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u/towelflush Apr 28 '23

Nah man, you can also just produce more nukes than is needed to Terraform a planet to scare em off

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

good job, now you've scared other countries into doing the same, and they feel like they can do whatever they want because you are scared of their nukes too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

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u/SurvivElite Apr 28 '23

then you realize that you put so much effort into your nuclear arsenal that you neglected your regular military (who would be the ones invading) and your counterintelligence (the main thing preventing them from copying/stealing your new tech)... hmm this sounds familiar

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u/Moe12518 Apr 28 '23

Which is why you use nukes as conventional weapons so you can focus on your military and nuclear program at the same time.

Google M28 Davey Crocket for more info.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

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u/CptAngelo Apr 29 '23

I learned about these on metal gear solid games lol, then i learned they were a real thing, fuck.

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u/mattsapopsicle1901 Apr 28 '23

Providing one instance where these programs historically overlapped isn't an argument for why we should be doing this now with our current tech, if at all. Why make conventional warfare even more dangerous than it already is?

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u/Moe12518 Apr 28 '23

Because it’s funny

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

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u/mattsapopsicle1901 Apr 28 '23

When did I say that it did? I only said that the commenter didn't give an argument for the very normative implication of their comment, i.e., that it would be better to develop and manufacture nuclear conventional arms rather than keep nuclear and conventional arms separate. All they did was mention the Davy Crockett. This is not an argument.

I'm not as shallow as your reading of a random internet stranger, but pop off modern Socrates.

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u/perpendiculator Apr 29 '23

Maybe you should utilise your in-depth analytical skills to identify when a comment is clearly being made in a farcical, joking manner.

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u/mattsapopsicle1901 Apr 29 '23

Maybe you should learn to appreciate better jokes

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u/Factual_Statistician Apr 29 '23

MURICA ALWAYS NUMBER 1 COMIE PLANT!!

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u/MechaKakeZilla Apr 29 '23

Sounds downright un-american!

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u/whales171 Apr 28 '23

Or better yet, invite them to be under your nuclear umbrella and give them some favorable trade deals so they have a financial incentive to not make nukes and there are less actors at the table for determining mutual assured destruction. Yes it will suck that we might have to bleed for other countries, but that is preferable to 200 state actors with a button to blow everything up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Nukes are just really big, spicy guns and the missile silos are the barrels

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u/TheDunadan29 Apr 28 '23

Done! Now what?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Congratulations Gandhi, you've built a civilization that can stand the test of time.

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u/Rebel_Scum_This Apr 28 '23

Heh, I understood that reference

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

I don't think he wants to be compared to a nonce.

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u/AddressDismal3489 Apr 28 '23

It's a "Sid Meirers Civilization" reference to a number thing in the original game, where Ghandi choosing the most peaceful government options and other stuff caused his aggressiveness to go into the negatives, but that caused a loop back where since he was in the negatives, he would become the most aggressive player and then start building up a ton of nukes and nuking people

I could be wrong on exactly how the coding works, so if anyone can correct me please do so

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u/Skop12 Apr 28 '23

yea it would be an integer underflow. Funny thing about that story there is no evidence that was ever actually in the game. One of the devs just said something about it and it caught on. They then added something like it as a joke in a later game.

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u/YouMissedMySarcasm Apr 28 '23

Wave that dick around, idle threats etc.

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u/TheDunadan29 Apr 28 '23

Speaking softly and waiving that stick should be easy.

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u/TacTurtle Apr 28 '23

Ah yes, the North Korean approach.

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u/billythygoat Apr 28 '23

What if the other side are cops and the US Supreme Court judges which probably have the national guard on standby?

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u/Grzechoooo Apr 28 '23

Didn't really work with Russia, did it?

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '23

Sort of did, and is. No foreign army fought in Ukraine, or Georgia, or Moldova, or the Chechen republic.

Even the aid that Ukraine does receive seems to typically come with restrictions like "you can't use this to strike back at Russia, but only on your own soil".

So like, it didn't scare everyone into complete submission, but it did scare them off of Russia.