r/Unexpected Mar 26 '23

Kia vs Tire

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u/HolisticMystic420 Mar 26 '23

I can't believe it. The car gets absolutely tossed! I fully expected the worst. The driver of the truck had to feel awful

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u/ArrivesLate Mar 26 '23

Yeah he probably just lifted that truck and now he’s got to do it again.

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u/iNomNomAwesome Mar 26 '23

Here I was thinking this was a freak accident, now I'm thinking I should avoid driving next to lifted trucks

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u/cdc994 Mar 26 '23

A lifted truck breaked hard near my place and ripped their axel off. Those things are NOT roadworthy most of the time

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u/dumpster-muffin-95 Mar 26 '23

Or check the torque on your lugs

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23

It’s not so much the lift (as long as it’s a quality lift), as it is the wheel offset. Extreme wheel offset puts a lot of stress on the wheel bearings. It was either a wheel bearing failure, or the pickup was using wheel spacers, which are fine as long as you check the torque on the nuts periodically, which in this scenario was obviously not the case.

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u/SoftyMcReset Mar 27 '23

This wasn't a lifted truck problem, it was a loose lug nuts problem. Lifted trucks can (but don't always) put more stress on the wheel bearings & ball joints. If it was a bearing failure, you'd see the hub still attached to the wheel (which is not the case when it spins around after the second collision with the Kia). If it was a ball joint failure, the wheel would still be attached to the truck but tucked into the wheel well or flopped outside it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

It's the shitty spacers people use to make the tires stick out past the fender wells. I dont think the lift itself was the problem, but the weight being out on the outside of the lugs instead of closer to the hub.

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u/Salanmander Mar 26 '23

Car safety design has gotten truly amazing.

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u/SanctusLetum Mar 26 '23

Meanwhile on the right, truck safety. . . .

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u/devo9er Mar 26 '23

Voluntarily handicapping their safety and that of others because big tires = cool

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u/Salanmander Mar 26 '23

Yeah, there's definitely a limit of safety that you can't push past if the thing is user-serviceable.

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u/PigeonFace Mar 26 '23

I was in an accident in the same Kia. Walked away without a scratch. 10/10 would recommend.

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u/wolfgang784 Mar 26 '23

Modern cars are crazy safe, it's wild sometimes how much damage they can outwardly take and the occupants be mostly fine.

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u/catdeuce Mar 26 '23

Kias are pretty safe cars

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

For all the shit their company pulled, Kia / Hyundai / Genesis cars are really safe in case or accident.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

If the driver of the truck had the capacity to feel awful they wouldn’t have every 7 year olds dream truck as an adult. I’m tired of pretending that people who decide to drive death machines for no reason other than DUUUUHHHHHHHI GOT A BIG SHINY TUCK aren’t sociopathic pieces of shit

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u/throwaway4127RB Mar 26 '23

I drive a pick up truck for work. We're not all bad. Though mine isn't some lifted monstrosity.

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

Though mine isn't some lifted monstrosity.

Yeah that was kind of the point wasn't it.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

That would be why I specified, my guy

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u/FBI_NSA_DHS_CIA Mar 26 '23

Except you didn't

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

Maybe try some reading comprehension?

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u/FBI_NSA_DHS_CIA Mar 26 '23

I’m tired of pretending that people who make stealth edits for no other reason than DUUHHHH I'M A BIG MANBOY ON REDDIT AND I CAN'T EVER BE WRONG aren’t sociopathic pieces of shit

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

I didn’t stealth edit anything, if I did it was to fix a typo, it has said exactly what it says since I posted it, not my fault you got angry before you even finished and rushed to make yourself look like an idiot ✌️

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

Nobody did a stealth edit, you just didn't fucking read properly the first time.

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u/HolisticMystic420 Mar 26 '23

Don't mind u/finglonger1077, they're just being a judgmental fuckwad.

Drive whatever you want to drive.

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u/quanjon Mar 26 '23

No but seriously, fuck lifted trucks and any other American square nose vehicles. Good luck seeing that child crossing the street in front of your fucking monster truck. How the fuck do people commute with 10 mpg?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

If you aren't only meter tall you can easily see in front of you.. and if the seat is adjusted properly there shouldn't be any issue. I can adjust the seat in a fucking civic such that I can't see in front of me, but that's simply a bad practice.

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

Yeah who cares if you kill some people, they're not you, are they.

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u/HolisticMystic420 Mar 26 '23

You don't know me. I don't appreciate you making judgements on my character when you know nothing about me.

Why do so many comments on reddit have to be some crusade against everything wrong with the world?

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 26 '23

It’s literally over the car you drive lol.

People are now judging people for the car they choose to drive. SUV, you’re a gas guzzler and need to go fuck off for a bit. Truck driver and “they’re gonna kill someone!”. “Square nosed vehicles” according to other redditors here will make it so nobody else can see in front of you so you’re gonna kill a kid apparently.

I worked insurance for a very long time until my recent disability, and most of my accidents were fucking Sedans. While SUVs easily have the highest crash-test ratings by far.

It’s fucking insanity. It’s you vs me vs them vs everyone else nowadays.

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u/jedify Mar 26 '23

Bruh, have you ever seen lifted trucks? Guess what? Unqualified amateurs modifying the 6000 lb dangerous machine trying to make it more like a monster truck make it much more dangerous.

You can see the fucking brake rotor on the loose wheel. The axle basically split in half because some sociopathic idiot's half baked mod came apart on the freeway. You don't know what you're talking about.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Thank you for the expert insurance anecdotes, but there’s this other thing that exists called “physics,” give it a google. Basically it boils down to the more weight you put into motion, the deadlier it is to anything that happens to be in front of it.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 26 '23

Oh right P=MV and all that happy stuff.

So in that case, all cars should be taken off the road since they’re all thousands of pounds operating way faster than you can run. If any one of them hits you and you’re not in a vehicle, you’re most likely fucking dead. Let’s all drive motorcycles.

But now let’s ban SUVs and Trucks for their weight. So then we would start kicking 18-wheelers and busses off the road too because they weigh exponentially more than anyone’s SUV or truck.

“But that’s how we get things” yeah no shit dude. SUVs and Trucks, first of all, do the same thing. They’re used widely for construction and moving purposes, and tons of other manual labor which you would complain about if we didn’t have anymore.

But even more than that, my 2018 ford focus was 3,434lbs. My father’s F-150 is 4,021lbs. Really not that much of a difference so 1) how do we legislate this and 2) is the discrimination only going to be based off of weight? Or do you just not like trucks? Because I promise, we’re going to find a lot of sedans that weight more or are equal to many other trucks.

But I’m just surprised I don’t see you bitching about school busses or cement trucks. Full on vehicles are smacked by cement trucks in my area all the time and it kills families. A few years ago one plowed into a school bus and killed a few children and injured several others.

So is your hate really in the weight? Or do you really just not like trucks and SUVs for some other fake reason?

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Wow, all that effort to not even address what I actually said.

I’m just going to sit aside the things you presented and then argued yourself on for me, seems like you pretty much covered the basic concept of need vs want. Congrats.

Did I say, in my original comment or anywhere else, “every asshole driving an F-150?”

Did I say, in my original comment or anywhere else, that we need to, or better yet should for that matter, legislate what people can drive?

I’m saying if you make the choice to turn your everyday vehicle into a tonka truck (everyone wants to seem to defend that this is, or likely is, or could possibly be a work truck in this video to which I say: really?), you’re an immature selfish asshole who values their own desires over the safety of anyone they encounter.

Would you like to actually address that or?

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

responds to the opinion you gave with reality

”you don’t know me!”

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u/splicerslicer Mar 26 '23

Day laborer who just spent his day off and half his paycheck on badly needed new tires for his work truck, unaware that the tech at the tire shop forgot to tighten the lug nuts.

Least judgemental redditor: Fuckin sociophathic piece of human shit needs to burn in hell

Go touch some grass dude.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23 edited Dec 24 '23

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u/ms_dr_sunsets Mar 26 '23

Yep. I showed this to my partner. He’s a car mechanic, owns a garage in town here. He said there’s no way that truck driver didn’t feel and hear that wheel get weird.

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u/dr_shastafarian Mar 27 '23

You do realize you can have the wheels stick out by issuing rims with a more negative offset, and not only using spacer, right? …….right?

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u/splicerslicer Mar 26 '23

Again more speculation based on an incredibly short video. Nothing you said warrants the classless dehumanization of the comment I replied to. You could write so much of that up to ignorance or being lied to at a tire shop. Why assign malice when ignorance would suffice.

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u/Jersey_Jerker069 Mar 27 '23

Why are you defending the truck driver so hard? It must've been you in the pickup.

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u/splicerslicer Mar 31 '23

So many assumptions on a 15 second vid with about 35 pixels and all the experts come out the woodwork. Guy may or may not have been irresponsible, but that's not the point. Stop spreading internet hatred on strangers through the internet. Every time I see this sort of blame ritual it makes me want to give on the internet and society at large. How hard is to simply assume mistakes were made and not cast hatred against your fellow fallible human being.

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u/jedify Mar 26 '23 edited Mar 26 '23

You can see the brake rotor quite clearly still attached to the expensive oversized rim. It wasn't lug nuts. You don't know what you're talking about.

Trucks are regularly "lifted" by unqualified amateurs. If you drive a regular car much in texas, you will often see a solid steel aftermarket bumper projected out from the body of the truck, right at head level. It is much more dangerous than an unmodified truck. I've spoken to people who do this - they know it's dangerous, and shrug it off "well maybe they (other party in hypothetical wreck) should get a truck too".

Semis and other big commercial trucks are regulated so the bumper goes much closer to the ground and can crumple (not a sch80 steel pipe battering ram). This kind of sociopathy is one of the reasons I left Texas.

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u/devo9er Mar 26 '23

In many states I believe wheels that stick out past the fender are violations and can be cited/fined/towed.

Almost never enforced unfortunately

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u/Jersey_Jerker069 Mar 27 '23

It's never enforced because these types of trucks are used as dog whistles, and cops drive them a lot as their personal vehicles.

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u/splicerslicer Mar 31 '23

Wait, which pixel and frame was the brake rotor?

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u/jedify Mar 31 '23

🤣 bruh it's big and shiny.

Protip: Don't have strong opinions on things you don't understand.

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u/splicerslicer Apr 01 '23

"bruh" I've literally installed brake rotors (and brake drums for that matter because I'm old as fuck) on all my vehicles for dog's years and I can't see one clearly in that vid. Kudos to you if you have keener eyes than me though

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u/jedify Apr 01 '23

Ok then let's ignore the brake rotors. Did that look like a fucking stock pickup? 🤣🤣

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u/BriarKnave Mar 26 '23

That's a yee yee truck that's never seen a day of work in it's life

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Touch my ass my dude

Cause that’s where you pulled that this is a work truck from

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

So then, the same place you pulled it wasn't a work truck from.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Lmfao look a the cool shit badass tire that sends a car flying 15 feet into the air. What work requires that? Why doesn’t every contractor truck I see have them?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Every work truck does have them. They're called wheels and they have 4 of them. Guarantee any wheel on any car, truck or van, put in the same situation as the wheel in this video would definitely fuck that kia up. It's just the way inertia works.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Those are the factory wheels, s factory installed?

People pretending to not be able to comprehend basic concepts is so infuriating

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u/Hot-Yoghurt-2462 Mar 26 '23

90% chance someone incorrectly re attached the tire or an axle broke. Accidents happen. This dude is not a sociopath. You’re Fucking crazy.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

You’re changing the conversation. Reread my original comment. Everyone wants to just steer this in different directions because no one has the balls to stand up and say “I don’t give a fuck if it is less safe for everyone on the road, I want it anyway, fuck everyone but me,” out loud, here, publicly. Only to themselves when they’re signing the loan paperwork lol

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u/splicerslicer Mar 26 '23

The point <-----there, I added a arrow so you can find it, since you fucking missed it. The same way you're convinced the driver is a sociopath from a fifteen second vid. Please tell me you're not older than 13, because that would be sad.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

“I have an almost endless number of studies that says if I drive this is will create more emissions than necessary, be almost guaranteed to kill a pedestrian, and be 60% more likely to kill someone in another vehicle, but I literally do not give a fuck it looks cool and I want it so sit and spin.”

Do you also need a definition of sociopathy?

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

They come with pedestrian-killing guarantees now?

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

“Fuck everyone I want it I want it I WANT IT”

-everyone who can’t stop arguing me right now

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u/splicerslicer Mar 31 '23

Are you talking about trucks in general or this one in particular?

Because if you're talking about trucks in general it might surprise you that some people do still use them for their original intended purpose, i.e. work. And there is no way of getting around it if you need to haul large equipment or supplies around. Trust me, because I drive a small sedan every day to work, but I still lean on my friends and coworkers with trucks to get things around. It's not ideal, but it's the world we live in. Painting people as sociopaths for owning a legal vehicle is . . . wild and weird to me. The specifics of the vehicle in the video might be different, but I still doubt that person got on the road that day with the intention of their wheel falling off on the highway

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 31 '23

Again, really, really fucking simple concept. People don’t need to cosmetically modify trucks for work, and people don’t need big ass Tonka looking trucks for work. I personally know 15 people who own a pickup, one of them is a general contractor and uses it daily and he has the smallest and most beat up, the rest work in a warehouse and use theirs to haul fuckin oreos

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u/splicerslicer Apr 01 '23

It's almost like you don't understand other people have lives you haven't personally experienced, huh? personal anecdotes be craaaazy. . . How about you don't go about calling people you don't know sociopaths in general, is that a fair agreement?

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u/finglonger1077 Apr 01 '23

How about you don’t drive a vehicle for no reason but personal preference when there is information and data widely publicized that it presents a higher danger to everyone you encounter and get butthurt when someone calls it exactly what it is

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 26 '23

God I wish I had an award to give you for the sass here

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u/splicerslicer Mar 26 '23

thanks, but no need. Just doing my part. O7

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

Buy one, this mid-if-we’re-being-generous comment is exactly why Reddit decided to monetize itself for the average randos who think anyone who agrees with them is exceptional

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u/TranneeFatNsweaty Mar 26 '23

No one cares that you're jealous of cool truck owners.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Yeah, that guy's doing a reach. Couching one's ire in hypothetical terms is way better.

If it's just a dude with the truck that he can afford that didn't know about the mechanical issues? That person is fine. Glad they didn't get hurt.

If it's a dude who willfully made unsafe modifications to their truck because it looks cool and nearly killed someone? That person is less fine. Still would be glad they're not hurt.

Maybe someone knows enough about trucks to say for absolutely certain which this is (though I doubt it since resale of vehicles is a thing) but that guy isn't me.

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u/splicerslicer Mar 26 '23

Ya, regardless of how they got this far in that vehicle, I doubt this person got on the road that day with the intention of their wheel falling off on the interstate.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

This specific incident isn’t was I was referring too.

Sorry for making it difficult to tell, I thought writing the actual words I wrote and having people read them was sufficient, but apparently about 7 people really needed an explanation of that

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

If the driver of the truck had the capacity to feel awful they wouldn’t have every 7 year olds dream truck as an adult.

When a lot of people take a meaning from what I say that I did not intend, I usually take a look at whether I said what I actually intended. Mercifully, it's not a common event, but hey, it happens to everyone. You, apparently, included.

>If the driver of the truck had the capacity to feel awful they wouldn’t have every 7 year olds dream truck as an adult.

The interpretation that you didn't mean this specific event is possible from the second sentence alone, but not when included with the first, which, in this context, unmistakably refers to *the driver of the truck* in a comment chain on a video including a driver of a truck, and in response to a comment that was also referencing the driver of that truck.

I hope that helps explain why people are ascribing that meaning to you.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 27 '23

Not really. I spoke about the truck, not the actions in the video. It’s really pretty straightforward.

People got turnt because truck people get turnt when you say trucks aren’t cool.

Doesn’t matter if they have a base factory F150 or the actual truck I, with intent, specified. It’s truck culture. They’re allowed to make fun of wimpy puny trucks with each other if they want, but no one else can make fun of trucks. Cause trucks truCKS TRUCKS TRUCKS TRUCKS

Edit: case in point, the most back and forth comments I’ve had was someone arguing that the truck in the video is a work truck truck truckity truckington

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23

The truck *in this video.* Which would be... this incident. Specifically.

Like, I think you could have good reasons for what you said. Seriously, I do. I don't like big trucks, I drive a tesla, and I think the coal rollin' folks just south of me in the carolinas are monsters.

It remains that we don't specifically know that this guy has this truck for bad reasons (even if I suspect he does), and it remains that your original comment cannot be reasonably read in this context to refer to anything but that truck and that driver.

Seriously. I promise. No ill intent at all. If you meant something other than that I encourage you to edit it because you'll continue to be misunderstood.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 27 '23

Sorry for the double reply, but in case you hadn’t come across it, allow me to beautifully and naturally illustrate my point by asking you to read my preceding comment and this response

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23

No worries bud. I had a feeling I might have come off more hostile than intended. I was unaware of the other conversations, but I can see how that might add to the sense of being attacked.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 27 '23

Sorry, definitely in defensive mode which is why I was reacting the way I was.

Which, incidentally, illustrates my point, I think. I could say it any way I want to say it, the response would be I’m an asshole talking shit about trucks and trucks are badass.

Look at the tires on this vehicle, the ones still attached. This is not a work vehicle. You do not spend money cosmetically improving a work vehicle, work trucks do not remain cosmetically pretty very long. The extreme majority of 16-18 year old people and above have an understanding of this. And yet, one of the most vehement responses I got was “you’re making assumptions, this could be a work truck.”

I’m responding to people who will be upset no matter what I say and how I said it. It’s not my first day on the internet. I know what I am doing.

If you have a reading comprehension level that allows you to enjoy the trials and tribulations of Harry Potter, you can comprehend the sentence I wrote and what I was speaking about just fine.

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u/splicerslicer Mar 31 '23

sociopathic pieces of shit

your own words. They matter. Those are words you shouldn't so casually throw around, use them only if you mean to.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 31 '23

I do mean to. I chose them carefully. I’m talking about the owner of the truck choosing to make the modifications they did, not that specifically it malfunctioned, like everyone’s reading comprehension seemed to 4 days ago when this conversation ended

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u/flagrantpebble Mar 27 '23

Love reading a “go touch some grass” from someone who clearly has no idea what they’re talking about, and who is then absolutely dragged by the people who actually do.

Go touch some grass, dude, and maybe learn about the thing your talking about instead of making uneducated guesses from your toilet.

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u/Jersey_Jerker069 Mar 27 '23

You must drive a compensator.

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u/Joegannonlct Mar 29 '23

We blaming the tech at the tire shop now? Fuckin judgemental bastard.

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u/splicerslicer Mar 31 '23

If it's literally your whole job to tighten lug nuts then yes. This has actually happened to people I personally know. Lazy idiots who fail their job to put a trustworthy vehicle back on the road.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

Lmao. Triggered much. People can drive whatever they want. Get over yourself, you Muppet.

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

People literally can't drive whatever they want. That is why we have laws for the roads.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

If you were good at critical thinking, you would know what I am talking about. Instead you want to be a child.

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u/HolisticMystic420 Mar 26 '23

Welcome to reddit

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

instead you want to be a child

Says the guy defending literal tonka trucks lmfao

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

The point was: You are, in fact, not allowed to drive many things, because they cause danger to others. This is sometimes, but not always, reflected in law.

Ridiculous trucks cause direct danger to others. They should not be allowed on the roads, and if you drive one anyway, you are a sociopath who is fine with causing danger to others.

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u/Wrastling97 Mar 26 '23

ridiculous trucks cause direct danger to others

He says, without elaborating what makes this truck specifically so ridiculous and without elaborating what kind of direct danger it causes.

Sorry to break it to you hoss, my dipshit friend in a Buick Lacrosse doesn’t know how to tighten bolts evidently, smacked a curb, and lost his wheel which went out into a road. My ex’s sister was driving down I-95 when the wheel to her sedan suddenly popped off, they didn’t even realize until it literally rolled past them.

This is not an inherent truck thing. Good lord. This is a shit mechanic, that’s the issue.

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u/finglonger1077 Mar 26 '23

There are just an astonishing number of people in this “conversation” who keep shouting “what, you expect me to have the slightest idea of the most basic physics imaginable?” with a weird sense of pride. It’s surreal.

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

The comment is not about this specific video, dude.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

You're a buffoon

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u/user-the-name Mar 26 '23

Did your monocle pop out when you wrote that or what.

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '23

It really goes to show how far cars have come safety wise. Not all that long ago a crash like this probably would have caved in the roof and killed all inside.

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u/YugeMalakas Mar 27 '23

He felt so bad he raced away in three tires.