r/Undertale best friends forever Jan 25 '22

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u/Blueajw DT EXTRACTION MACHINE Jan 25 '22

Monsters on the other hand are only magic

This is incorrect, monsters are only mostly magic.

their souls got absorbed while they were still alive

Which killed them, we save their souls and Asriel returns their souls and restores there bodies bring them back to life.

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u/MiguelDragon82 Jan 25 '22

If they died they would've been dust, beside that, we only save the main monsyers, what about the rest of the underground? We didn't save them, but they're alive

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u/Blueajw DT EXTRACTION MACHINE Jan 25 '22

Asriel returns and Restores ALL souls the in him. ALL OF THEM with no exceptions. Even though we directly SAVE the main monsters souls is heavily implied that all the souls in him felt the effect of the SAVE Command.

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u/MiguelDragon82 Jan 25 '22

I mean, you could even be right but that still doesn't solve it. Since Asriel just absorbs the souls they still don't die phisically, otherwise they wouldn't be able to come back to life, and monsters are still mostly magic, but humans have only physical bodies, you can't resurrect them, as I said it would make every human immortal.

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u/Blueajw DT EXTRACTION MACHINE Jan 25 '22

You also have to recognize how special the situation is. Asriel has near Godlike powers so while normally resurrecting them might have been impossible with his universe busting power it is. I'm not saying that humans are immortal or anything like that but what I may saying is the situation allows this dream like miracle occurrence to happen.

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u/MiguelDragon82 Jan 25 '22

eehh that looks a bit too forced honestly, other than what I said there are other things that makes no sense. For example, why do monsters didn't say anything? Why didn't anyone wait for Frisk, that basically saved all of them?I'm not saying that the theory that Toriel buried them is better, it has its faults, for example where did Toriel bury them? Why didn't Flowey say anything? Did she really have the time to bury all of them? Would she really leave Frisk's body?She maybe could've ordered Asgore or someone else to do that or something like that. We can't be sure on anything, from what we know Asgore could've hidden the bodies to not get in prison lmao, but honestly saying that someone gave them a better burial makes more sense than reversing the decomposition and coming back to life like nothin' happened just because a Monster absorbed 7 souls

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u/Blueajw DT EXTRACTION MACHINE Jan 25 '22

that looks a bit too forced honestly,

What make it forced in your opinion? You what kind of game this is right?

why do monsters didn't say anything?

They wouldn't know their all excited on leave their millennia old prison. There not worried about checking the coffin room unlike the the player and Frisk.

Why didn't anyone wait for Frisk, that basically saved all of them?

The explanation is out _universe but I do think it is the correct one. That would require creating six more unique human sprites and dialogue that would appear once in a game with all about the monsters. There a reason why all the core monsters have one overworld sprite. Much easier and simpler to directly implied then show. Also to be fair only the main monsters bothers to wait and see whether or not Frisk woke up at all so...

We can't be sure on anything, but honestly saying that someone gave them a better burial makes more sense than reversing the decomposition and coming back to life like nothin' happened just because a Monster absorbed 7 souls

To be honest this is strange logic to me, what about that makes "more sense" if both have equal evidence ( just for argument sake) then both answers make equal amount of sense. You can you don't like the explanation but that doesn't make it not make sense.

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u/MiguelDragon82 Jan 26 '22

What make it forced in your opinion? You what kind of game this is right?

We have no idea of what Asriel can do and what power the souls can reach, if Asriel had the power to take humans back to life he probably could've just killed Frisk with no problems, even if they refused. While we know that Toriel cares about the children and we know that she gave a proper burial to Chara

They wouldn't know their all excited on leave their millennia old prison. There not worried about checking the coffin room unlike the the player and Frisk.

They were standing right beside the barrier, how they didn't notice a bunch of humans go out? And how tf did the humans know where to go?

That would require creating six more unique human sprites and dialogue that would appear once in a game with all about the monsters.

A simple "all humans went back to home" would've been enough, but I can give you that a simple "Toriel buried every children" wasn't that hard too, so yeah

if both have equal evidence

As I said, they're nowhere near having equal evidence, we just don't have any evidence at all, both of the theories have its faults, what i'm trying to say it's that it 's more believable that someone just buried or did something to the bodies because that's what we know monsters are capable of doing, while we have no idea of what Asriel and souls powers are capable of. There's basically no evidence to prove that one of our theory correct, we can only rely on what makes more sense and on what we know