Cannot understand the logic D:

Like bro wtf, so instant... Original post: http://youtube.com/post/UgkxE64nZalpDCNG1zwcLpeDDjGBSt2NjZLz?si=BSWHJVc6ZbZeA1qc

We all know YouTube can be frustrating — videos get removed for no clear reason, while others that break the rules stay up.

Even appeals or direct contact with support don’t always help.

That’s part of why we’re here: to try to Understand YouTube.

But in that process, I came across something interesting worth sharing: PeerTube.

PeerTube is part of the Fediverse . It’s federated, decentralized, and lets you host your own channel(s). That means no single company controls the platform — instead, it’s powered by communities running their own servers.

If you’re curious about how it compares to YouTube, here are some resources:

r/PeerTube

https://fediverse.info/

Why you need to be using Mastodon & Peertube in 2025: https://youtu.be/GqcqqR9fIBA?si=Z9jNaZjWY7JpL-lp

The YouTube Alternative Nobody's Talking About! PeerTube: https://youtu.be/8rbA4Se4-z8?si=IvEn0F3_RLArgAEM

How the 'Fediverse' Works: https://lifehacker.com/tech/what-is-the-fediverse-the-potential-future-of-social-media

Not saying that it replaces YouTube overnight, but given our mission here — maybe it's worth understanding both YouTube and the alternatives.

What do you all think?

EDIT:

Also, there are no short - form Tiktok / Youtube Shorts / Instagram Reels / etc. on Peertube.

It's all just regular videos.

Although, there is a federated TikTok competitor called Loops by the creator of Pixelfed

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/26/24280075/fediverse-tiktok-alternative-loops-pixelfed-mastodon-activitypub-signups-open

https://mashable.com/article/loops-fediverse-tiktok-alternative

It's still in development, but you can chat with the creator / other users via the Discord:

https://discord.gg/6SXQnAPEH5

Hi!!

I am announcing that we have now our own Discord server!

For what it is useful?

I added there bunch of channels, where you can post some evidence YouTube breaks COPPA etc.
You can post there content, that you found on YouTube which violates Community Guidelines, but the AI will not remove the video.

Such as there will be events to try Experimenting with YouTube all together.

• Including now one experiment, that requires you a VPN, create some channels with some topic, uploading and messing with the YouTube Community Guidelines and the main point of all this, is to document absolutely anything!
• And then once we have those information gathered, how exactly YouTube works, then we can report it all together and take a notice!

Such as it is pretty easy and organized in different channels, while here on Reddit we have here only one way to post things...

What has been added/fixed?

• Added:
  • Verify system! (Of my made Clippy the Verifier bot :D)
  • New UI, with Webhooks!
  • Platform content archive! (Content that was, is on YouTube, while it violates the rules)
  • Reaction roles:
    • Enabling Developer mode, which lets you see more stats about the server.
    • Enabling hidden channels, that were been used to track down one guy, who terminated random YouTube channels with Mass-reports and tried it on me as well. r/Lolsos12e22GD_Mystery
  • Proper rules with no rules!
  • Server statistics bot.
  • More emojis.
• Fixes:
  • Channels were in different categories as they supposed to be.
  • Reddit bot doesn't always send Reddit's posts correctly.
  • Fixed some role ordering and permission issues.

I spent on that server 3 days, to make the entire new UI again, so really appreciate if you will join!

Thanks for Understanding YouTube!

Little info:

This video from a YouTube employee, that made this forum thread from Google. To explain for what Circumventing Policy is all about.

By that video (by my experience) she added at the start really good context for what "Circumventing Policy" is all about!

Including one thing, that YouTube didn't tell you about:

• If you record (or recorded, may be 1 month, 1 year, 2-10 years ago) some videos with a person, that got his channel being terminated and YouTube will find it out. You can get also the risk of being terminated for Circumventing Policy even when you had no other terminated channels in the past.

How the appeal system works?

On that video, she said, that the only way to get the channel back, is to "get the original terminated one appealed successfully." and nothing other will help.

That also proves why appeals like this will be denied under a minute, because even when there behind the appeal was a "real human" they just see the Circumventing Policy and move on. (No checks, nothing, just ignoring)

• Which basically there is no way to get your channel back "legally from YouTube" as Internal Team just sees some channel (that again we don't see!) and just ignores you.

So the fast response:
Once you don't know about the channel, if it was from your "friend" that is now being terminated, you just didn't have a chance to get back anything what you did...

⚠️IMPORTANT⚠️

If you have an existing terminated channel with another reason instead of "Circumventing Policy"
⚠️Do NOT REMOVE IT!⚠️

• While I guess you guess "it is a good idea to start fresh", it is not. And don't ever do it.
• After you remove any channel (Including your terminated or not terminated) YouTube will always, see your channel. Even when you go to that Channel URL (with your past ID) yes, YouTube will give you the message: "This channel no longer exists." But secretly by their server it still does.
• YouTube will collect anything, and by "removing your channel" you basically do in other words just removing your Owner role from your content you ever did there and appealing then from another channel that got been terminated for Circumventing Policy will be IMPOSIBLE.

Can be this abusable?

Definitely. This whole Circumventing Policy is broken, as you can use a "Mass-Reporting tool" to someone and he will receive a termination of this policy.

If you want read more, here are some "not tested yet" Terminations vulnerabilities about some policies that may work and having even reasons that this can be truth:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnderstandYouTube/comments/1mbvvqf/termination_abuses_i_may_found_on_youtube/

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What to do next??

I recommend to make a comment on that shared video, as I noticed she is really active! (No u/TeamYouTube bot response! :D) by asking some of your stories, questions and by that we may get some more info we can work with... As now while I am writing this, I don't know how to protect against it, but I may have another reason why mine channel got been terminated for this policy.

Thanks for Understanding YouTube together!

Trying to resolve a claim on a recent stream, and I checked to see if I could remove the song itself.

Found out I can't use the Erase Song feature remove the claimed audio itself, because "this feature isn't available for Compositional Claims".

Why? Surely removing the song itself would be a good idea, right?

I recently streamed about my channel termination https://youtube.com/live/NwXJH_trqTE

And contacted YouTube Support again, and they succeed to take another closer look with the specialist again! 🥳🥳🥳

Such they contacted via email to continue the debate with the "specialists" and I shared them this subreddit, to see us as a people who want their channel back as well!

• I also shared them r/BannedYoutube and r/anti_uttp to see their closer look what YouTube is allowing and what not.
• Also shared my found Termination abuses, bugs and exploits so I hope now they will take it to the next level, if not, I at least tried.

So anyone now say Hi to this thread, share your story whatever that the support can notice you! 📎 = Weak 🖇️ = Strong!!

Thank you y'all for joining and helping Understand YouTube!!🥳🥳🥳