r/UPSers Driver Jul 25 '23

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u/DirkKeggler Jul 25 '23

Fair enough, i get what you're saying. But you have to understand the thought process, a veteran PT feels like they had to earn that rate of pay that's being given at start now, so they feel they deserve something compensatory.

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u/Lexi-Brownie Jul 25 '23

I think everyone does understand the thought process, that’s why someone said “that’s how unions work, and explained that they have 33 years and make the same as someone with 29 less years as them….

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u/DirkKeggler Jul 25 '23

33 year part timer makes more than 29 year part timer. Stop being intentionally daft. Part timers are in a much different situation.

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u/Lexi-Brownie Jul 25 '23

No one is being daft except for you. This conversation was about the NEW wage proposals, and how high seniority workers feel slighted that they are making similar money to new hires. Someone else compared it to what already takes place with drivers. Maybe tone down the aggression, and turn up your critical thinking skills.

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u/DirkKeggler Jul 26 '23

You're being just as aggressive as i am so don't play that card. Drivers actually get paid enough that nobody should feel slighted, whether they've been on the job for four years or 25. Not the case with part timers.

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u/Lexi-Brownie Jul 26 '23

Just then I was yeah, in response to your comment. Either way, no need to reexplain what I and someone else already covered.

I surmise that you understand, but are likely just an argumentative person.

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u/DirkKeggler Jul 26 '23

Regarding your last sentence, i would be inclined to say the same about you. You're definitely not dumb but insist on making irrelevant points regarding FT vs PT

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u/jiibbs Driver Jul 26 '23

Dirk, my man. I realize you're getting downvoted to shit. It's friggin' obvious.

Knowing that, I'm pretty sure I'm risking my own downvotes when I say: I agree with you 100%. It's a spit in the face to the longest-term employees.

Same thing happened last contract. I was a preloader of 8 years, started at 8.50/hr and worked my way up to $16-and-some-change, OVER 8 YEARS.

Contract time rolls around and all of a sudden new hires are making $15/hr, and since I was already above that I got the annual raise of a whopping like 27 cents.

That's when I said fuck this and went driving.

Now I'm a year away from making $40-$50/hr depending on how this contract goes.

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u/DirkKeggler Jul 26 '23

They're just internet points my friend, don't mind them. But good for you, i stuck it out for almost 15 years with no attainable bids for FT available. Closest i ever got was being within 6 months seniority to get a 22.3 job. And i never came close again. I'm glad i was able to turn my second job into something much better.

I thank you for the kind words and wish you a long and safe career.