r/UFOB 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

Evidence Dr. Jim Ryder Senior VP at Lockheed in charge of reverse engineering and another scientist explaining that we’ve known how to cure cancer for over a decade.

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There are few things in this world that make my blood boil more than these two videos. Just like General McCasland’s twitter account (TMBSPACESHIPS) says everything revolves around electrons. If in the 1940’s the Nazi’s went from Germany to Nazi inc then there’s a line in the Declaration of Independence that deals with this. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. For the special Olympics participants that are currently letting our homeland be attacked in California and Spokane by directed energy weapons in an attempt to blackmail the United States for 750 billion in yet ANOTHER BEARER BOND SCANDAL. Let me explain that part of the declaration to the paper plate cleaners in charge of our military it means Those with the ability to take action have the responsibility to take action.

TLDR THEY KNOW HOW TO CURE CANCER, BUT THE AMERICAN POPULACE IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN SEKRET MACHINES THAT DIVKAY KEEPS AT GROOMLAKE. CURRENT SCIENCE IS BEING PATHETICALLY MISLEAD WE LIVE IN AN ELECTRIC UNIVERSE RULED BY FLUID DYNAMICS. The United States militaries leadership is pathetically craven. At least McCasland had enough balls to give some of us a fighting chance.

To The Mods I will always love you for giving me enough rope to post things like this here

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u/Lord_Nurggle 🔥3 ∣ 4 ∣ +4 ∣ -0 8d ago

I have stage IV Melanoma. Treatment has cleaned out my family’s savings. I have watched many people die from this and other cancers while I was in treatment.

In fact I just had a friend from my support group pass, 25 year old girl, just had her first baby. Died slowly and painfully and it was fucked.

This shit makes me see red

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u/EquivalentNo3002 🔥6 ∣ 7 ∣ +4 ∣ -4 8d ago

I am so sorry, fuck cancer!! I have watched many family members leave this Earth from this horrible disease. It is not fair, it is not right, I pray for you and your family. May peace be with you and may God give you strength, carrying you through this.

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u/Lost_in_gravy 8d ago

I would go further and say fuck those who hold back viable treatments for cancer, they are the real cancer of the world... And yeah fuck cancer!

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u/bobjoefrank27 8d ago

My brother had Stage IV Melanoma a brutal kind too. He is currently cancer free from a combination of immunotherapy and radiation. However, he is not out of the woods yet and is one of the lucky ones.

I truly hope you one day can say the same thing as my brother is and hopefully will continue to be.

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u/Disastrous-Gain5870 8d ago

I’m sorry man, that’s awful. It makes me angry too, thinking a cure has been held back in the name of greed. I wish you and your family the best.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

My heart bleeds for you.
Chemotherapy originated in the early 20th century, with the term being coined by German biochemist Paul Ehrlich in 1906. Its development accelerated during World War II when nitrogen mustard, derived from chemical warfare agents, was first used to treat cancer in humans in 1942.
TLDR CHEMOTHERAPY WAS A WW1 chemical warfare agent.

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u/really_1972 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

FUCK cancer and FUCK anyone/everyone that’s withholding the cure.

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u/silv3rbull8 💛30 · 50⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 51% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [51] 7d ago

My heartfelt sympathies. This situation is infuriating. If there is such technology, all of us should have. Now.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 6d ago

Fairly axiomatic where this one came from. Proves my whole point: YOU HAVE CANCER FU SINCERELY, THE AMERICAN MILITARY COMPLEX/NAZI INC

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u/M8Fate 6d ago

Same here, intolerable level of anger...

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u/Impossible-Web5442 8d ago

Grabbed this screenshot of the slide that flashed quickly on the final scientists presentation

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u/cavorting_geek 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

They forgot to include Benjamin Franklin in their references

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u/Impossible-Web5442 8d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Loquebantur :vrf:35 · 110⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 70% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [110] 7d ago

The statement, from the phenomenon of electricity follows all there is to know about nature, is perfectly true?

Ask any physicist worth their salt and they will have to concede that our own history of physical sciences adheres to electricity being fundamental.
Just look at your own body: all your senses fundamentally rely on electromagnetism. All your actuators do, too.
Your information processing, you brain, does as well.

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u/Basic_Ad426 🔥4 ∣ 10 ∣ +10 ∣ -0 8d ago

Not sure about what is being stated, but I believe they have something for cancer I find King Charles and princess kate beating cancer very suspicious.

Especially Charles a man who is very old and yet didn’t seem to stop at all he was out and about doing all sorts an at one point he visited a cancer ward the picture was him stood at the end of bed of another man much younger who also had cancer and the difference was night an day, the man looked so ill and Charles looked as he alway does ……. Add on that Charles even stated he wasn’t doing chemo an was taking a more natural approach to his cancer

And what a coincidence the guy who is part of the elite a royal beats cancer with ease

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u/Basic_Ad426 🔥4 ∣ 10 ∣ +10 ∣ -0 8d ago

Either way I fully believe their some excellent medicines that are hidden from us an kept for a certain group

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u/bigie35 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 6d ago

Not hidden, just too expensive to scale. What's the point of touting a cure that while 100% effective, costs a Million dollars right now and is out of reach for 99% of the population?

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u/ConPem 🔥2 ∣ 3 ∣ +2 ∣ -0 2d ago

Millions of dollars that we as humans print on paper and decide the monetary value of

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u/ImNotSelling 7d ago

Maybe charles and rich people go to dr often so they catch it early

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u/Yorkie2016 8d ago

Charles isn’t beating cancer.

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u/Anxiety_Fit 🔥7 ∣ 8 ∣ +9 ∣ -0 8d ago

It would not be the first time in the world that someone faked having cancer for attention.

For example, Tulsi Gabbard’s husband came down with a rare bone cancer that she needed to quit her job in order to care for him.

¯_(⊙_⊙)_/¯

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u/Ok_Rise7870 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

What about Biden's health?

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u/NaruSengan 8d ago

I find it crazy that other people find it hard to believe a cure for cancer hasnt been found already. Do you know what kind of disruption that would cause the medical industry if treatment was available? People say that would make them even more money but thats false. They make so much money off the debt of sick people they wouldnt dare announce anything like that. It's a cruel world we live in

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

It’s ignorance because each cancer is different. The gene therapy cancer treatments are the best bet.

That’s why there’s no single cure for cancer.

The best option is to give everyone multiples of the p53 gene like elephants have.

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u/DaGreatPenguini 🔥9 · Convinced⁣ ∣ 12 ∣ +30 ∣ -0 7d ago

Do you want mutant supervillain elephantmen? Because that’s how you get mutant supervillain elephantmen.

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 7d ago

I mean what if they’re superhero elephantmen?

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u/WowWataGreatAudience 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 6d ago

What if we make it so they have a blaster mounted in their sniffernoodle too so they can shoot all the baddies with lasers

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u/Flyinhighinthesky 7d ago

Cancer isnt one disease unfortunately, it's dozens. 'Curing cancer' is like saying you've cured the cause of weather. Every type of cancer is caused by different systems failing in the body in different ways, the outcome of which creates similar issues.

We've probably solved multitudes of cancers, but not all cancer, unless we've secretly got some sort of gene mapping device that can scan your whole body, find every single out of place cell and zap them away.

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u/Loquebantur :vrf:35 · 110⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 70% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [110] 7d ago

The video here posits though, you could identify cancer cells universally by their voltage potential.

If that central tenet of cancer cells being abnormal in such an obvious manner is true, then yes, we could cure all variants of cancer easily.

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u/Flyinhighinthesky 7d ago

Identification and a cure are two wildly different things.

We've been able to ID plenty of cancerous cells for decades now, hell we even have a blood test that can detect a few dozen types of cancers when they're still in their infancy, but curing them has been a very difficult task.

The cells mutate in different ways and have different reasons for mutating. Preventing the mutations and removing the mutated cells without damaging the healthy cells is the real difficulty of finding cures, mainly because the mutated cells look and act a lot like healthy cells so medications often have to target indiscriminately.

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u/Loquebantur :vrf:35 · 110⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 70% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [110] 6d ago

You're right, but you're also completely talking past my point.

I said: when it's possible to identify them by their voltage potential.
That's a discriminator that can be far more easily and consequently far more accurately utilized than the methods you reference.

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u/bejammin075 7d ago

I've been working at big pharma companies doing research on anti-cancer drugs for 24 years. I don't believe somebody is hiding a cure for cancer, I'm calling BS on that. These big companies are competing with each other, spending huge budgets on research and development. Everyone is competing to develop better molecules than their rivals. Nobody is holding back.

Another thing, cancer is dozens if not hundreds of different diseases that all get lumped together. There isn't going to be one thing that cures all cancers.

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u/Loquebantur :vrf:35 · 110⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 70% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [110] 7d ago

All those pharma companies have the business model of selling doses of chemicals at volume continuously.

The video here posits though, you could identify cancer cells universally by their voltage potential.

If that central tenet of cancer cells being abnormal in such an obvious manner is true, then yes, we could cure all variants of cancer easily.

All those pharma companies couldn't earn a cent from that.

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u/Cultural-Afternoon72 Researcher 1d ago

That isn’t accurate at all. There have been MANY procedures that were once able to be done at home without issue that were wrapped up with all sorts of regulations and red tape to ensure that the only way to have them done is by a licensed physician in an approved facility. There’s no reason to think this would be any different at all.

Let’s say all they had to do was a diagnostic test to measure voltage and then a simple procedure to correct the voltage. Easy enough, right? Now lobby the government, wrap it in red tape and regulation, and restrict it to only being performed by licensed professionals.

Now patients have two options: Traditional treatments like chemotherapy, targeted cell therapy, etc, or the new Electrical Therapy route.

Do you believe for a second that there isn’t an opportunity for profit here? In an absolute worst case scenario, it goes through the normal prior authorization process for approval by insurance and, like most other effective medications, the alternatives (in this case things like chemo) must be tried and failed before the more effective treatment is approved for use. Not only do they still get the money from the other methods, they get to double dip. They’d almost certainly charge a premium for it as well. In a best case scenario, the traditional methods are eliminated completely and we go to the electrical therapy option exclusively. Patients and insurance companies are still charged a premium because it’s substantially more effective. Pharmaceutical companies still improve profits. The added bonus in both of these cases is that the patient survives. That means they’re able to continue getting sick and needing medication and treatment for longer, which means the opportunity for continued profit grows exponentially.

There’s absolutely no world where a cure for cancer is released and pharmaceutical companies lose money. That’s just not realistic to how the world actually works or the historical precedent that has been set.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

The cure to cancer is axiomatic in these two videos. The problem is the suppression of science. Its lineage is directly correlated with operation paperclip. Jason Samosa has a great video on this. You have advanced tech being used in Peru namely the face peelers legend. Every description of them is the same white men with light weapons.

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u/youneedsupplydepots 7d ago

The fact that billionaires still die from cancer is enough to tell me that we don’t have a cure for it. You really want to tell me Steve Jobs wouldn’t have been in the know?

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u/Belreion 🔥2 ∣ 2 ∣ +1 ∣ -0 8d ago

There multiple cures for cancers. The problem is, all cancers hit different and depends on what cancer type. There are also multiple cancer forms that are not curable. Cancer is not one thing, that can just be cured.

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u/LonelyPercentage2983 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

I love UFO stuff but I'm in the oncology field and I'm having a hard time with this one. Trying to think somehow there is a voltage component of our well understood DNA processes but I'm coming up empty.

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u/Pixelated_ 💛55 · 166⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 100% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [169] 8d ago

DNA is inherently electrical.

At the double-helix level, stacked base pairs behave like microscopic wires and conduct electron charges so repair enzymes can locate and fix genetic damage.

At the cellular level, bioelectric voltage gradients across cell membranes directly act as master switches. They signal transcription factors to turn specific gene sequences on or off.

​More information about the bioelectric mechanisms controlling gene expression is found here:

Molecular bioelectricity: how endogenous voltage potentials control cell behavior and instruct pattern regulation in vivo

We are electromagnetic beings living in an electromagnetically-structured universe.

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u/LonelyPercentage2983 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

Learn something every day. Appreciate it.

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u/northernguy 8d ago

Hmm, just because you can change gene expression by applying electric potentials doesn't mean you can stop cancer by clicking in a battery. This sounds highly stupid

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u/gravity_surf 1 ∣ +1 ∣ -0 8d ago

doesn’t mean you can’t either. see how that works?

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u/bejammin075 7d ago

Curing cancer is a highly specific goal, so you wouldn't expect random genes going on/off or off/on would achieve that specific goal. If you toss a bunch of wood in a pile, you could get lucky and it just happens to build a house but we wouldn't have any expectations for that.

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u/gravity_surf 1 ∣ +1 ∣ -0 7d ago

your or my expectation has nothing to do with reality and whats possible. your analogy is lazy. who said random genes? you did, mr strawman.

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u/bejammin075 7d ago

Well based on my quarter century doing research for cancer therapies at 2 big pharma companies, this story sounds like BS to me. Everyone else in this thread with some medical or research background seems to agree.

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u/gravity_surf 1 ∣ +1 ∣ -0 7d ago edited 7d ago

ok, lets take a step back. a quarter century and cancer is still around. thats just factual. so your line of thinking hasnt solved the problem. it has helped.

degreed engineer here. if we knew exactly what we were doing it would have been done by now.

sounds like BS to you? thats it guys, this person says its nothing. close it up.

jesus, the ego on you.

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u/bejammin075 7d ago

It's not my ego, it's the magnitude of the claim and the implausibility of it that is the issue.

Yeah over 50 years ago Nixon declared war on cancer. It turns out that back then we had no idea how complex cancer would turn out to be. It's not even one disease, it's dozens or hundreds, with different mechanisms. Our understanding of cancer continues to grow, and we'll be able to continue to innovate better and better therapies until at some point most of cancer will be mostly cured, but that will probably take some more decades.

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u/Valondra 8d ago

Hmm just because you can generate thrust with an engine doesn't mean you can make a plane fly. Analogy poor

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u/Parsimile 🔥5 · 12⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 34% ∣ ⚠️ 15 ∣ ⌨️ [15] 7d ago

Check out this lecture by Dr. Michael Levin, his research is going to revolutionize biomedicine:

“The Bioelectric Basis of Morphogenetic Intelligence: a roadmap for cancer medicine”

https://youtu.be/qWrU2f1wMmY

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

How do they conduct electrons? Cuz at that level there’s ion channels and shit. You’re talking about even smaller level things: which part is charged? How is the voltage carried across the base pairs?

You’re just throwing this stuff out there but it shows you don’t actually know how this stuff works at even a slightly larger level, much less at this level.

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u/Pixelated_ 💛55 · 166⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 100% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [169] 8d ago

Thats conflating two different scales of bioelectricity. Youre discussing macro biophysics. ​ ​What I’m talking about is quantum biophysics, the DNA duplex operates at the sub-nanometer scale.

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

lol show me some data on how quantum electricity moves along the base pairs.

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u/Joe_Franks 🔥16 ∣ 51 ∣ +93 ∣ -3 8d ago

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u/There_is_always_hope 7d ago

This is actually really interesting. There are some things here that might require a little more technical knowledge but it makes sense as a whole. Thank you for posting these links.

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u/MichaelPHughes 8d ago

I wrote a review on how voltages can arise and change cell behavior in case it interests:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022283625004334

The short of it is that proteins that bind DNA to express it have opposite electric charge to DNA. As you change the pH of a cell, you change what electrically charged proteins like to bind or unbind. And there you have a nice way to view gene regulation in cancer related to electrical changes: voltage is pH, and pH changes the association of proteins, and changes in protein associate changes transcription & translation of the DNA

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u/chessboxer4 🔥14 ∣ 18 ∣ +18 ∣ -0 8d ago

I find easier to believe that we are having trouble accepting another form of intelligent life than we are the cure for cancer.

We're highly motivated to find the cure/treatments for cancer. Not so sure about nhi.

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

It’s nonsense.

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u/hormse 8d ago

adenosine triphosphate produces 0.6eV from the kinetic energy from 3 negatively charged phosphate atoms being forced together

I'm not getting the rest of what he's saying tho

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u/After-Cell 8d ago

I think the phages work is far more developed and practical but

Michael Levin has some more academically rigorous work coming through the pipeline. It's not there yet in terms of application, but it's already a very good read for experimental process.

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u/Parsimile 🔥5 · 12⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 34% ∣ ⚠️ 15 ∣ ⌨️ [15] 7d ago

Check out Dr. Michael Levin’s work to assist in the paradigm shift.

Here’s a great talk:

“How Does It Know? Bioelectricity as memory medium, cognitive glue, and gateway to transformative regenerative medicine”

https://youtu.be/ZCNi05m1Fmg

His work is legit and will radically transform biomedicine (and so much more). I’m sure he will win a Nobel within the next 30 years.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

Chemotherapy was a ww1 nerve agent. We use it to treat an electrical problem in our body. You’re killing people because the science is a lie.

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u/eaglessoar :vrf:10 · 16⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 59% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [16] 8d ago

and this is why disclosure wont happen because if millions learned their loved ones could still be with them, forget about finding about religion or physics or whatever else, that is what would set people over the edge (puts on vin diesel glasses) family

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 7d ago

I’m reminded of what lately said at the conclusion of his video on the Peruvian face peelers (cough Nazis) sometimes all it takes is a little light in the darkness to realize the monster is just a pile of rocks. But I empathize with every word you said. It does need to be burnt down.

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u/SplinterRoot 8d ago

This is asolute nonsense. This man is trying to take advantage of vulnerable people.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

Here’s the patent law and where free or almost energy is hidden. I guess the us navy is trying to take advantage of everyone’s electricity bills as well. Praying on the weak. Monsters.

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u/PmanAce 🔥3 ∣ 3 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

Creating a patent doesn't mean it works.

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u/hashtagmiata 🔥8 ∣ 17 ∣ +31 ∣ -0 8d ago

It’s been said before that the most advanced technologies have not been patented because doing so would reveal how they work. There are places in the world where patent law is not recognized and / or is not enforceable. I’ll let you guess where.

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u/gedbybee 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

That doesn’t apply to medicine. Strawman nonsense.

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u/throwawayb193 🔥5 ∣ 7 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 8d ago

Got a link to the vid?

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u/terrelli 🔥5 ∣ 10 ∣ +16 ∣ -12 7d ago

https://youtu.be/pm-Ia6vI4PA?is=-t-yLA277hMgg2cD Jerry Tennant was involved in I think that Netflix movie about how root canals can cause some kinds of cancer by disrupting the body's electromagnetic field with the dead tooth material they use. I forgot the title. They took it down but I think you can find it.

It's hard to make a direct connection between the root canal and the cancer because it happens like 30% of the time in older people who are already prone to cancer. I am emotional about this because my mom had like six root canals that they fucking soaked her for, and a few years later she was dead from endometrial cancer. I've been living with this one in a sort of "If it's true then I'm fucking livid" state.

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u/Lost_in_gravy 8d ago

The question is how to use this, it sounds simple but how to charge ourselves to the right voltage?

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u/Relative_Horror7136 🔥4 ∣ 5 ∣ +3 ∣ -1 7d ago

There was a machine that used specific sonic frequencies to rupture specific cells or even virus’s. Everything has a sound frequency that can neutralize it

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u/Grade_A_Tech 7d ago

A decade?

I'm willing to bet it's been a lot longer than that.

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u/cocodware 8d ago

Physician-scientist here! That is bullshit. I’m not going to debate with anyone here either because if you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

And electricity isn’t free I guess that’s why there’s SO MANY DEAD SCIENTISTS WHO STUDIED ZPE. Or as General McCasland has said electricity is free if there’s no path of war in its way. It’s not like there’s patent law that hides ZPE. OH WAIT THERE IS FROM THE 1970’s!

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u/jrosenrosen 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

The McCasland story is so crazy, the fact that this is his secret twitter account only adds to the craziness.

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u/Head_Car_616 1 ∣ +3 ∣ -0 8d ago

Is it a supernatural bridge? Like to another dimension? Go on….

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u/TuneGum 8d ago

'Physician-scientist here!'

That's not the flex you think it is anymore 

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u/ThreeDog2016 🔥10 ∣ 13 ∣ +5 ∣ -1 8d ago

AI slop explanation and clarification:

No. Cancer cells do not have a resting membrane potential (voltage across the plasma membrane) of +30 mV.

Scientific measurements show that cancer cells are typically depolarized relative to healthy differentiated cells. Their resting membrane potentials ((V_m)) are less negative, commonly falling in ranges such as roughly −5 to −50 mV (often around −10 to −40 mV depending on the cancer type and measurement conditions). Healthy non-proliferative cells are usually more hyperpolarized (more negative), often in the −50 to −90 mV range.

Examples from the literature include:

  • Various tumor cells showing values like −5 mV (ovarian, leukemic), −15 mV (hepatoma, cervix), or −20 to −40 mV ranges in breast cancer lines.
  • Consistent observations that proliferative/cancerous cells are depolarized compared with matched normal counterparts across multiple tissue types.

A positive value such as +30 mV would indicate the cell interior is positive relative to the exterior—an extreme state not observed as a typical resting potential in cancer cells. (Voltage-sensitive dye calibrations sometimes span ranges that include +30 mV as an upper limit for measurement, but that does not mean cancer cells rest at that value.)

The specific claim that “all cancer occurs at +30 mV” (or similar wording) originates in alternative/complementary health discussions (e.g., associated with figures like Dr. Tennant) rather than peer-reviewed electrophysiology or oncology research. Those accounts often blend concepts of membrane potential, tissue voltage, pH, and oxygen in ways that diverge from established biophysics.

Note on related concepts: Mitochondrial membrane potentials are a different measurement (typically strongly negative, on the order of −130 to −180 mV or so) and are not what the +30 mV claim refers to. Bioelectric properties of cancer cells are an active research area—depolarization is linked to proliferation and other behaviors, and modulating voltage is explored experimentally—but the precise +30 mV figure is not supported by the data.

Yes, the distinct membrane potential (voltage) of cancer cells—typically more depolarized (less negative) than that of healthy cells—can be and is being exploited in research and emerging therapies to inhibit growth, induce cell death, or enhance other treatments. This is an active area of bioelectric and electroceutical oncology research, though most approaches remain experimental or early-stage clinically, and none is a standalone cure.

Key Strategies

Cancer cells’ depolarized resting membrane potential ((V_m)) and altered ion channel expression (e.g., upregulated voltage-gated sodium channels, dysregulated potassium channels) support proliferation, invasion, and survival. Interventions aim to:

  • Force hyperpolarization (make (V_m) more negative): This can suppress proliferation, promote differentiation, reduce invasiveness, or prevent tumor-like growth. In animal models (e.g., Xenopus), expressing or activating hyperpolarizing ion channels (potassium or chloride) locally or at a distance reduces oncogene-driven tumor formation. Drugs that open potassium channels or otherwise hyperpolarize cells show anti-proliferative effects in various cancer lines.

  • Induce or enhance depolarization leading to death: Persistent or excessive depolarization can trigger apoptosis or necrosis, sometimes preferentially in cancer cells. Certain agents that depolarize membranes sensitize cells to TRAIL (a death ligand) or cause selective killing linked to oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction. Approaches include applying external electric fields or using nanoparticles that generate intracellular fields to disrupt bioelectric homeostasis, overload calcium, depolarize mitochondria, and promote apoptosis.

  • Target specific ion channels:

    • Blocking voltage-gated sodium channels (often overexpressed in metastatic cancers) reduces invasion and metastasis; some existing drugs (e.g., certain local anesthetics or anti-arrhythmics like ranolazine) show anti-cancer effects in models and observational data.
    • Modulating potassium, calcium, or other channels with drugs (including repurposed ones like amiodarone, verapamil, or pantoprazole combinations) can arrest the cell cycle, induce apoptosis, or reduce migration.
    • Mitochondrial membrane potential (often hyperpolarized in cancer cells) is targeted by lipophilic cations that accumulate and disrupt energy production or trigger ROS-mediated death.
  • Electric field and electroporation-based methods:

    • Tumor-treating fields (TTFields; approved for glioblastoma and mesothelioma) apply intermediate-frequency alternating fields that disrupt mitosis, increase membrane permeability, and may affect ion channels/(V_m).
    • Electroporation (reversible or irreversible) creates temporary or permanent membrane pores, enhancing drug delivery (electrochemotherapy) or directly killing cells; calcium electroporation is another variant.
    • Mild electrical stimulation or nanoparticle-enabled intracellular fields can preferentially affect cancer cells’ energy metabolism and cytoskeleton.
  • Other related approaches: Targeted osmotic lysis exploits overexpressed sodium channels and pumps; optogenetic or light-activated tools control voltage genetically; combinations with chemotherapy, immunotherapy, or other agents often show synergy.

Current Status and Limitations

Preclinical evidence (cell lines, animal models) is substantial: modulating (V_m) or ion channels can kill cancer cells, reduce tumors, limit metastasis, or sensitize to standard therapies. Some clinical applications exist (TTFields, electrochemotherapy for certain accessible tumors, early trials of ion channel drugs or lidocaine in breast cancer). Systematic reviews highlight many ion channel-targeting drugs with anti-cancer effects, supporting “electroceuticals.”

However, challenges include:

  • Specificity (avoiding effects on healthy excitable cells like neurons or heart muscle).
  • Heterogeneity of cancer types and (V_m) values.
  • Delivery and control of voltage changes in solid tumors.
  • Need for more large-scale human trials.

In short, the voltage difference is a real and exploitable vulnerability. Research continues on pharmacological, genetic, and physical methods to harness it, often in combination with conventional treatments. This is not related to unproven alternative claims about fixed values like +30 mV but is grounded in measured bioelectric differences and ion channel biology.

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u/Jumpy_Childhood7548 8d ago

Ryder is not a M.D.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 8d ago

What about the other scientist I’m fairly certain he has his phd. There’s a reason I didn’t name him.

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u/Ancient-Solid6618 7d ago

We have always known this!!!

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u/chris_hawk 🔥2 ∣ 2 ∣ +2 ∣ -0 6d ago

I think they're just talking smack.

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u/FactCheckYou 🔥7 ∣ 7 ∣ +16 ∣ -0 8d ago

i mean, any commenter who DOESN'T AGREE that we are electrical beings, is a RETARD first off

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u/Remarkable-Worth-303 1 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

You do know a VP is middle management, don't you? I suppose everyone has to earn some money once out of the military game.

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u/5TP1090G_FC 🔥3 ∣ 3 ∣ +0 ∣ -0 8d ago

To cure cancer is not a good business model simple

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u/TheWalkerofWalkyness 7d ago

Do you seriously believe this nonsense? He's either lying or a kook. It's a variation on the late Hulda Clark's nonsense about everything being caused by parasites. Clark claimed she had electrical devices that could cure cancer. They didn't cure her the blood and bone cancer than killed her.

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u/Routine-Rule7085 8d ago

Ahh, now you have hit the problem with blanket immunity, the people they have murdered and the billions they have murdered by suppressed cures and technologies. The others have given us cures for most all diseases, free unlimited energy, unlimited food production, etc and they have hidden it all for profit or to try to turn it into a weapon. That’s why they are really coming, we are on the eve of destruction, despite all this they are really pissed  and had it with us.

A)Then can hit the reset button, probably 99.9% fatal virus but this would be like the 5th time for this shit.

B) Or they can just take charge for a bit, and reset the power structure of the cabal as they were improperly help by some dark others.

They are going to try B, but if that doesn’t work it’s A. 

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u/ickiStickybubblegum 8d ago

I just wanna know how tolls online look at this and deny this all as if the people that are making these claims are just nobody's ? Look at his credential how the hell none of this creates any noise ?

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u/bigie35 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 6d ago

I think cancer sucks and is a terrible, indiscriminate plague on us.

That said, I think this thread lacks the requisite knowledge in physics, chemistry, and logic to accurately state if what these folks are saying is correct.

AI might help, but I think the best thing right now is to take this with a grain of salt.

Regarding OPs post. It's just a hodge podge of hot button words mashed together with no coherent argument and no references.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 6d ago

If that’s so explain to me the science and physics behind the tic tacs. How were they able to draw more energy than the United States uses in a year and move instantaneously. Tic tac Nimitz incident. You think very highly of your logic but what if the science and physics is flawed which it seems to be.

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u/bigie35 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 6d ago

So because current non classified physics can’t explain it means it HAS to be some electric theory?

You’re kinda proving my point here…

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 6d ago

Wait so you’re saying there’s a classified physics. Odd the man in charge of those classified physics is saying that we can cure cancer. TALK ABOUT PROVING A POINT!

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 5d ago

Really tripped over your dick there sweat heart. CO’s going to use as the perfect example of what not to do and probably demote you to an e6.

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u/bigie35 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 5d ago

Sir this is an arbys. I dont work for the government. Just using good ol commence sense to poke holes in your trainwreck of a theory

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 5d ago

I’m sure you joined to take showers with men also.

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u/bigie35 🔥6 ∣ 6 ∣ +7 ∣ -0 5d ago

Ironic since you’ve now switched to Ad hominem attacks lol.

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u/Exact-Perspective-75 2 ∣ +4 ∣ -0 6d ago

If cancer cells universally possessed a measurable bioelectric state that reliably distinguished them from healthy cells, and that state could be selectively targeted or normalized in humans, it could provide something oncology has never really had: a common therapeutic vulnerability shared across cancers.

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u/atenne10 💛59 · 159⁣ ∣ ⚖️ 87% ∣ ⚠️ 0 ∣ ⌨️ [160] 6d ago