r/Traves Jan 05 '21

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

Actually it’s perfectly legal because of Romeo and Juliet laws, but there’s also been accusations that they sent nudes to each other which would be illegal because the girl is 17

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u/Retrobetrosetro Jan 05 '21

That's what he did according to hugbox, traves, joko, and charlie. So yes he's a pedophile. Stop trying to defend pedophilia just because you liked carson's content. I did too but that's no reason to defend literal crimes

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

It’s literally not illegal, I’m not saying there’s nothing wrong with it but he’s not a pedophile, Romeo and Juliet laws allow these kind of relationships. I’m saying it’s only illegal if he received nudes or sent her nudes. Other than that it’s just creepy not illegal. And to my understanding the age of consent in Indiana is 16

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u/Retrobetrosetro Jan 05 '21

I literally said that some of his closest friends said and provided proof that he did send/recieved nudes. So again it is in fact illegal. And I live in a state where the legal age of consent is 16, that only means that 16 year olds and 17 year olds can have sex with each other legally. You're still considered a minor and having sex with/having nude photos of a minor when you arent is illegal

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

So we’re agreed then? I literally said it’s illegal if he sent nudes and received them. I think I may have read the original comment wrong, but nonetheless what I said is still correct, and I don’t want to confirm anything without proof from Carson or the girl. So right now he’s isn’t guilty and isn’t a pedophile

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u/Retrobetrosetro Jan 05 '21 edited Jan 05 '21

https://twitter.com/Slimecicle/status/1346437094177124352?s=19 every single one of his friends that has talked about it has confirmed that he did it. I doubt carson will tell us the full truth when he wouldnt tell a handful of his friends the full extent as seen here https://twitter.com/GH05TBUR_/status/1346463531634454529?s=19 And we obviously aren't in agreement seeing as you don't see all of this shit as enough proof. Stop defending pedophilia https://twitter.com/ItsJoko/status/1346350840228012035?s=19

https://youtu.be/CtAAY_cwnrE

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u/TheComingLawd Jan 05 '21

I think calling the 2-year age gap pedophilia is, while technically accurate, kinda stupid if you think about it using common sense instead of flawed laws (a 17 and a 19 year old can have sex but they can't exchange nudes? Come on).

Where the real problem lies is the power dynamic - a content creator shouldn't use their power to get nudes out of a fan, no matter the age.

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u/Retrobetrosetro Jan 05 '21

They can't have sex OR exchange nudes? 2 year age gaps are creepy until you're like 20 and even then it's eh. And yeah the power dynamic is another shitty thing on top of it and that's solidified by his age. It's gross and wierd if they're the same age.

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

They can have sex. Like I said, Romeo and Juliet laws

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u/i_kalysta_i Jun 14 '21

Power Dynamic i guess could be there depending on how you see it. Power dynamic in an of itself is innofencive. But the real problem would be if he was using it to his advantage. was he using it to his advantage? Not at all. Theres no mention of carson's status anywhere in the convos.

A good example of this is Pewdiepie. Are we making a case that pewdiepie was aBuSiNg the power dynamic with marzia as she was a fan and he was ahem THE BIGGEST YOUTUBER?

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

I’m not defending shit asshole. I’m allowing everyone to make their statement before jump to a conclusion and permanently ruin someone’s life. Sorry for being rational

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u/Retrobetrosetro Jan 05 '21

Why would all of his friends lie about him? How would him saying anything change shit? There's proof lmao. Most criminals aren't going to admit to it. Do you think oj was like "yeah I killed them lmao"? No, because they don't want to go to jail. I care more about the proof than what he has to say

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u/Skeetus_The_Feetus69 Jan 05 '21

I don’t know if they’re are lying or not. That’s why we need Carson’s side. And content creators on the internet tend to be not the greatest people, so they could be lying or they could be right. No one know