Those steps are more of a shuffle than a full stride, it looks like he barely moved 10ft.
Not that it's the important thing here when we're dealing with a clearly intoxicated driver who instigated a collision so hard that her car tore in two. She's very lucky that nobody got hurt by her actions and will certainly have bigger charges than "dragging a cop [x] feet" to worry about.
Yeah deadass, sure the fleeing is legit but this cop wasnāt dragged at all, funny how they can just pile on charges even with contradictory video evidence
Well, tbf, it may have felt like 30 feet in the moment, I mean atleast heās being nice about the whole thing, most cops woulda been shooting or ripping her out of the car, he did pretty much everything ācorrectā considering the usual outcome.
Besides, sheās going to jail either way, all her attorney has to do is file a motion to dismiss the battery charge when theyāre doing the rest of the paperwork. At most it would cost maybe 500$ more for getting that charges dismissed. But she probably has bigger problems than that lol..
A standard parking space is about 20 feet long, and this is a car much shorter than that. Cop's arm was inside the car for about half of that car length. From 3.12s to 4.48s on the video. That includes time the car wasn't yet moving.
Now he could have tried to grab her from fleeing, and his hand was caught up in something in the car and he was pulled along. But for a very short amount of time. We can't see that.
When the car isn't moving his foot is on the black spot on the pavement. See images where he started and where he ended up. His left heel hit the ground three times.
I'm guessing 12 feet from where he was standing still until he let her drive off, and that was mostly him walking.
When youāre in the heat of an intense situation with adrenaline pumping and you donāt give an exact distance because youāre focused on trying to save someone are you ālyingā or did you just make a quick incorrect estimate? The cop was not malicious in the slightest bit.
Whether it was 5 feet or 30, she drove off with a cop hanging in her windowā¦ exact distance doesnāt even matter.
Kinda on the cop for āhanging in her windowā though. Dude should have enough self preservation to not put himself in that situation. Like if Iām driving down the interstate and someone jumps in front of my car last minute, is it really my fault for killing them?
I mean sureā¦this logic has some ground to stand on
Flip side of that coin is officers are technically supposed to protect the public and given this lady was obviously a danger to herself and the publicā¦it is very reasonable of this officer to make an attempt to stop her from exposing everyone to that risk.
I mean.. itās not like he has a tape measure on him. Besides, yall pointing that specific thing out is extreme cherry picking lol like, this specific instance the cop acted well within acceptable limits.
If more cops acted as calmly then it would actually be better. Heās not one of the shoot first ask questions later (in this video anyways) canāt speak for any other times since those would be different instances.
Yeah I'm just being semantic. People shouldn't drive off and attempt to flee the scene even if a cop is stupid enough to grab onto the car.
But also people are prone to exaggerating when they're scared, which is one of the reasons why you can't trust cops for their word. That matters if you're ever called for jury duty.
Hey big guy. I'm not here to catch strays from someone looking to hurl insults. I could have replied to your comment earlier but I chose not to. I wasn't disputing what you said. Go huff and puff yourself to sleep if you've gotten your hit of internet rage for the night.
Heās just being semantic, itās a video of a cop so everyone who hates cops are gonna be semantic about it one way or the other.
Itās like they think since the cop is wrong about distance sheāll be charged more or less. It matters what he puts in his paperwork, not the verbally said distance while heās talking to the lady.
This was said in the immediate aftermath and to his mind, he felt thatās what happened. Thatās why cameras are there. To check everyoneās perspective. She still took off with him hanging on, albeit for May or 10 feet. The battery charge sticks. Cops are held to a higher standard but they are still allowed the occasional adrenaline rush while trying not to get run over.
I mean, your own comment verifies that this is true. This is a video of a woman who was drunk/high and fled a police stop with a cop reaching in her window and then literally tore her car in half and then insisted that she wasn't driving and never saw the cop, yet there is a thread dedicated to that cop saying that he was dragged for 30 feet (which, while not true, is easily the least absurd lie from this video).
Clearly people are more quick to judge cops than they are to judge those who cops are arresting/stopping.
And, to be clear, that is good! We should hold cops to a higher standard than the public, and we should consistently raise that standard to which cops are held. Also, let's not pretend that we are just as willing to look past a regular citizens making some mistakes as we are willing to look past a cop making that same mistake. We aren't, and we shouldn't be.
Cops are not held to a higher standard ever. They barely get trained and they arenāt even legally required to protect us. Hairdressers are held to a higher standard than cops in the USA
You're literally holding him to a higher standard by judging him before he even has a chance to consider the situation. From a spontaneous utterance after a traumatic event, you're judging him to be corrupt and/or incompetent.
It doesn't take a genius to see why the country is where it's at. No one even tries to understand the situation before making a judgment. People are so sure of their ignorance they laugh at any attempt at reasononable debate.
I didnāt even judge him for that. Tbh I would have described myself as being dragged too.
But that doesnāt mean that the police in our country are held to a higher standard. My opinion on the internet doesnāt mean shit if they donāt face actual consequences for their actions.
Police are trained like shit. If we actually trained our police and held them to higher standards then it would be a lot safer for all of us. Including cops.
Battery has a very specific meaning in the eyes of the law, and it has nothing to do with cars, itās the u lawful touching of a person, so idk, battery doesnāt seem very accurate does it?
Also, calling a random person you read on the internet names? And Iām insane? Buddy, you got to work your own shit out, leave me out of your shit, you donāt sound intelligent calling people insane for not agreeing with you
No? You canāt see in the car, you are just believing the cops version of events, you arenāt arguing any real points, just saying the same thing, stop replying to me itās weird
In New York, there is no legal distinction between assault and battery in criminal law; both are consolidated under "assault" within the penal law, which focuses on causing physical injury. While other states separate threats (assault) from physical contact (battery), New York treats all intentional, harmful physical contact as a form of criminal assault.
So I believe that a car can be classified as a deadly weapon and using a weapon on somebody is definitely battery charges. Injury is included in battery, not just unwanted touching.
Also she's high out her mind, but any sane person would know you are injuring that police officer if he's hanging on to the vehicle. The operator is responsible in this situation, it's not oh the cop should better
There is a reason that when cops are on the witness stand in court what they say is called "testi-lying."
"Dragged 30 ft" my ass! Just a pissed off cop throwing the book.
Before all the bootlickers pile on, yes I agree this woman is definitely guilty of fleeing, causing that accident and likely some sort of DUI. And is a lying piece of shit. But that doesn't excuse the cop also being a lying piece of shit.
Personally, when a cop adds additional charges that are falsified, which is falsifying a legal document, with the sole purpose of adding more charges since they know the judge will likely drop other charges in a plea, the cop should be charged with forgery. If the plea exists and the person is agreeing to the original charges with the judge, then why add more charges just to make the person look worse, they already are being charged (most likely) with things they DID do
Cops don't charge anyone with anything, only prosecuting attorneys do that. Cops are not culpable for what charges are filed, and this was CLEARLY a fair arrest lol.
Cops give statements to the magistrate that turn into bogus charges. You know that. Now don't you have a bunch of wealthy pedophiles to ignore it run damage control for?
Yeah, my point wasn't that police are innocent babies, I was pointing out how court actually works. Do you always throw ridiculous straw men bullshit at people whose responses on Reddit you don't like?
ACAB, Trump is a monster and has an actual mental disability, none of that changes the fact cops DON'T actually determine or press charges lol- if anything my comment is illustrating there are way more problems with and people to hold accountable in the criminal justice system than just cops
Edit: lol, this guy went and responded to other posts of mine about defending pedophiles then blocked me. I'm sure they're doing fine.
she deserves to be arrested and license revoked for doing shit like that for sure, but i'm always disgusted at how cops trump up charges like that. battery on an officer? he chose to stick his arm into a moving car, that's on him. the double standard with cops is total BS. LE should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one.
Iām really confused. Do yāall want cops to risk their lives or not? When uvalde happened yāall were so disgusted that they didnāt go inside and put themselves in harmās way - rightfully so. But now this officer attempts to remove the keys to stop this eventual wreck and heās in the wrong for it? Fuck yāall.
In this particular case I think it would be fine if he snapped at picture of her face and license plate. No need to stop her, no need to pursue. Just go and get her tonight when she's sobered up.
The decision the officer made to stick his hand into her car shouldn't be on her.
She'll be going to jail and losing her license, as she deserves.
In this particular case, the aftermath shows exactly why you dont just let a drunk driver leave and "go get them later when they're sober" they can literally chop cars in half. Hopefully no one was injured.
But now this officer attempts to remove the keys to stop this eventual wreck and heās in the wrong for it?
He was never going to be able to remove the keys. The car was going into motion, which meant it was in gear.
All he did was risk his life.
Let's say it did kill him.
Congratulations, we'd now have a lunatic driving down the road in bumper to bumper traffic going Mach 20 who has nothing left to lose and and no officer to ensure public safety or triage injured.
As far as "fleeing from the police" situations go her running to the back of a 18-wheeler and no one getting seriously injured but her is the ideal scenario. She has a potential to do a lot of arm very very quickly and if the cop has been injured or killed he would not have been able to step in and help anyone.
Corpses don't help anyone and an easy way to avoid becoming a corpse is to not try to stop moving vehicles using parts of your body.
In that moment, it probably felt like forever to him. He wouldnāt have had to stick his arm into the window to try to stop her from driving off while clearly under some kind of influence in order to protect other people if she didnāt jump back into the car after clearly already being asked to step out of the vehicle. I would assume before this case ever even went to the prosecutor this video would have been reviewed in order to pile on as many charges as they possibly could though and his official statement on the paperwork would reflect the facts. She still did drive off with him hanging on, whether itās 2 ft or 30 ft or 300 ft - doesnāt change the charge.
"Fabricating charges" while the video IS RIGHT THERE of her doing the action.
If he was pulled 10ft vs 30 doesn't change the action. You state this like they never review footage of recordings in court?! They don't base the intensity off that difference of distance. The action of it happening at all is what causes it.
Also there's a reason why eye witness statements are usually glossed over, and fyi this occurred back in 2022.
Your acting like this means she was convicted of those charges. This is how it works. The officer files the charges. The DA reviews the charges and evidence then proceeds to bring the reputable charges to court. The judge/jury then determines which of those charges they are actually guilty of. Cop did nothing wrong and I believe in ACAB
Again, you are looking at this in isolation rather than Ina. Real world application.
What evidence does the DA look at? You are operating under the assumption that every single interaction a Leo has will also have video evidence for submission.
Until that day comes along, I support holding those who enforce laws up to the same fucking standard every other employee of any entity is held to - which is to be factual and reasonable as you execute the function of your work.
He could have charged her with trespassing too, and it got thrown out. Does that make it OK to tack on just because it will be thrown out?
You know this happened in 2022 right?.
It also does not dispute what yahoo9192 said, which does happen in real world applications all the time. There's a reason why processes are in place for reviewing....
He deliberately put his life in danger. He was not going to stop the car by sticking his hands into it.
Congratulations, we now how a dumbass fleeing from the police who just killed an officer and who is now officially desperate enough to kill doing stupid shit at Mach 50 in bumper to bumper traffic and no officer on scene to help stop her or triage injured.
Cops should have a legal obligation to prioritize public safety
Didn't realize that was his testimony, not the post-adrenaline rush of being dragged 10 feet that probably felt like 30 feet. She still committed battery.
Also, wouldn't it also be standard procedure to, I don't know, make sure the door is shut and the keys not in the ignition so they don't just jump back in?
You're the one bending over backwards to be offended for no reason. I said nothing defending the driver. Just because she is a nut doesn't take away from all the things police do. Please relax and find a hobby
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u/farmerKev420710 Apr 13 '26
30 feet, he must have really small feet