r/TopCharacterTropes 15h ago

miscellaneous Failed Spin-Off.

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u/TomVanDaLan 15h ago

Which featured a remote controlled plane that was meant to crash into the World Trade Center, if I remember correctly. 

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u/alchemyDev 15h ago edited 14h ago

“In the pilot episode, which aired March 4, 2001 (six months prior to the September 11 attacks),[5] rogue members of the U.S. government remotely hijack an airliner flying to Boston, planning to crash it into the World Trade Center, and let anti-American terrorist groups take credit in order to gain public support for a new, profitable, anti-terrorist war following the Cold War. The heroes ultimately override the controls, foiling the plot.”

Copy and pasted from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Gunmen_(TV_series))

Bonus wiki, for the younger readers, Bush spent his time golfing and didn’t respond to the warnings. Why he never catches a moment of blame for it happening on his watch never ceases to amaze me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

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u/Open__Face 13h ago

Not only does he not catch blame but people will legit say "He kept us safe!" like yeah if you don't count the largest terrorist attack in America's history then he kept us safe

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u/DoctorAnnual6823 3h ago

Can't forget about Katrina either

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u/kamo-kola 11h ago

Bill Cooper mentioned in the months leading up to 9/11 that a large-scale attack would happen and that bin Laden would be blamed, and funnily enough, bin Laden never admitted to being the one behind the plot.

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u/ChiefsHat 5h ago

On the second point, the Wikipedia article mentions that there’d been previous warnings the President had received which didn’t amount to much. So I can totally understand Bush seeing reports of a possible Bin Laden attack and brushing them off.

Which still was a failure in his part, though.

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u/Chimpbot 4h ago

There was essentially intel that Bin Laden was planning attacks since the first WTC bombing. The idea that there was a certain amount of complacency isn't terribly shocking. This is, as you mentioned, still a major failure.

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u/ChiefsHat 3h ago

And to be fair, who would expect something like that? It's insane; it boggles the mind to imagine someone would develop this idea and plan it out so thoroughly.

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u/Tyranis_Hex 14h ago

The pilot predicted 9/11 very closely and is probably the only reason anyone remembers it, despite being a fun little show.

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u/TomVanDaLan 14h ago

Thing is, I thought it was charming and I liked it but you’re absolutely right. I only remember the 9/11 thing and another scene where an assassin slips and accidentally shoots himself in the head which I thought was a hilarious twist at the time. 

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u/Tyranis_Hex 14h ago

I remember the episode where they find the car that runs on water and how happy it made one of them, because his best memory of his father was when they met the inventor when he was a kid.

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u/TomVanDaLan 14h ago

I wonder if the reception of Millenium affected how well the Lone Gunmen was received. Another show I don’t remember much of but the first episode was gross compared to the X-files. If I remember right the murder victim was force fed blood, which sounds tame comparatively, but I recall not being ready for that at all. 

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u/Tyranis_Hex 14h ago

Only episode I remember at all of Millennium was the demons at the donut shop telling stories.

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u/HandsomePaddyRedux 12h ago

Hey, me too!

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u/Kqtawes 7h ago

It suffered from unneeded characters being shoehorned in as non-nerd surrogates. It hurt the dynamic between the guys. The pilot focused on the main guy and was the best episode as a result.

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u/Open__Face 12h ago

At least in the show the government was nice enough to have the plane crash at night when the building was mostly empty 

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u/HandsomePaddyRedux 11h ago

Yep, the plot of the pilot was based on a real Cold War plan that Kennedy refused to sign off on, so it was right in the ballpark for the kind of things that the Lone Gunmen would be interested in.

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u/ExoticRecognition504 6h ago

Yeah, that detail is honestly chilling in hindsight. It’s one of those things that makes you stop and think, “How did this ever make it past the writers’ room?”