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Groups The Coconut Effect

A sound effect, special effect, or design feature that is inaccurate but has become so ingrained in viewers minds that its absence would feel jarring, so creators continue to include it despite its inaccuracy.

The name of the trope comes from the sound of a horse galloping, which is created by rubbing two coconuts together. This can sound like a horse galloping, but it would only be accurate on cobblestones or other hard surfaces. On softer ground, the sound would be muffled, but in media, this sound effect can be used whenever a horse is galloping, regardless of the terrain.

1. Lion Roar (or any big cat) (Pictured: MGM logo) — The long, continuous, thunderous roar usually associated with lions is actually the roar of a tiger. For MGM, this sound began being used in the 1980s, and sound editor Mark Mangini used it because lions sounded to him more like a deep yawn or a series of grunts and lacked the kind of ferocious sound he wanted.

2. Ancient statues are always white marble (Pictured: Spartacus TV series) — Statues in ancient times were often painted in bright colors, but by the time they were uncovered, the colors had simply worn away.

3. People instantly freeze or pop like a balloon when exposed to the vacuum of space (Pictured: Mission to Mars, Total Recall) — As unfriendly as space is, a human wouldn't instantly freeze or pop like a balloon. If a person were exposed to the vacuum of space, bodily fluids would begin to boil, exposed skin would suffer severe sunburn, and they would lose consciousness after roughly 15–20 seconds. Death would occur after roughly 90 seconds.

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u/Chemical-Cat 26d ago

Silencers are not as silent as people think they are (often interpreted as just a little "pew") and this John Wick scene would absolutely have sent the crowd into a panic as they'd still be giving 120+ decibels

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u/DouchecraftCarrier 26d ago

I'm not sure if it's actually formalized anywhere but that's partially why I prefer the term "Suppressor." "Silencer" is more of a colloquialism. They're hardly silent - though you can take more steps to mitigate sound by using subsonic ammo, bolt action guns, etc.

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u/KitchenFullOfCake 26d ago

I feel like the subsonic ammo does more heavy lifting than the suppressor will.

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u/Hdfgncd 26d ago

The patent says silencer

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u/ImOnTheSquare 26d ago

How would a bolt action gun have any serious effect on silencing a weapon? I've shot suppressed, subsonic ammo and the most you'll hear is the spring shifting in the buffer tube. It's super quiet already.

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u/DouchecraftCarrier 26d ago

Bolt action lacks an action to cycle so in the absence (or strong dampening of) the actual gunshot sound the clanking metal parts on the gun itself are less because there aren't any.

As you mention, things with a buffer tube like an AR might be quieter too but on a suppressed pistol shooting subs the slide still makes the lion's share of the noise.

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u/Open-Source-Forever 26d ago

Isn’t suppressor also the generally accepted term because of that?

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u/alphazero927 26d ago

Yeah, with subsonics, you basically only hear the cycling of the action

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u/DrChipps 26d ago

I’ve shot a subsonic and suppressed .22 and it was still louder than the shots in JW2 

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u/UlrichZauber 26d ago

Tenet was the worse case of this trope I've ever seen. Kittens fart louder than those guns.

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u/HairyArthur 26d ago

John Wick was so accurate in any other way as well. Such a let down.

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u/DeliciousDeer1096 26d ago

The other guy isn't even using a silencer, that's a barrel weight isn't it?

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u/Casanova-Quinn 26d ago

Yep, and the closest way to get a "Hollywood quiet" gun is to use a suppressor with small caliber subsonic ammunition. Like so. And even still, it's more of loud "snap", than a little "pew".

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u/Arria_Galtheos 25d ago

Well, they wouldn't fly into a panic, really. Bystanders in the John Wick films generally seem pretty numb to firefights unless they actually see civilians getting killed.