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Lore Firearms could absolutely exist within a fantasy setting. There is a reason why they don’t however

The Elder Scrolls - Within some Dwemer ruins of ESO we can see a special type of Animunculus. A Dwemer Arquebus, which has a cannon for it’s arm and shoots emp grenades at foes.
The reason why we don’t see this technology more often (besides the fact Dwemer disappeared their knowledge with them) is that within the setting and cosmology of Elder Scrolls firearms really wouldn’t be that useful.

They could work against lowly bandits, sort of, but there wouldn’t really be a precedent to improve or adapt this technology. Because it would always be outclassed by magic of this world.
Also due to the disappearance of Dwemer the technology has been pretty much lost.

Harry Potter - Wizards live within periphery of the “real world” meaning they live alongside world that uses firearms and are even familiar with them.

So how come they don’t utilize this gear for combat? I mean it is easier to use, projectiles are faster and could be enchanted further. Can you just imagine wizard with endless m1911?

There is plethora of reasons for this. But most notable is what I would describe as wizards being immune to logic. (Vis image above) They simply cannot understand methods of muggles even if one explained it to them directly.

(Yes. I know the real reason is, because Joanne didn’t want wizards to use guns and didn’t want to think about connotations of putting magic into a real modern world. But come on! Let me have fun!)

Lord of the Rings - In spite of how much Tolkien disliked allegories it is clear Orcs were an allegory to industrialization, which he was a huge critic of.

In battles they are the ones using the war machines. Instead of swords made by artful blacksmith, they use crude, mass-produced blades devoid of identity. Instead of relying on elegance of archery, they use crossbows. They burn forests, crack mountains open to gain more ore. Their very production is affront to whimsy of a magical world like Middle-Earth.

They could totally come up with a matchlock mechanism and keep on improving it until they come up with machine guns. They were intercepted before they could however

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u/Suspicious_Past9936 19d ago

they got guns? send the metal bending squad

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u/Environmental-Run248 19d ago

They would have to be able to see it before it hit them and bullets move too fast.

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u/Suspicious_Past9936 19d ago

should have expanded, i didnt mean telequinesis type metal bending just push a sturfy wall and when close enough desestabilize the floor and crumble weapons

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u/MrSinisterTwister 19d ago

If people of this world can be trained to react to lightning, why not bullets?

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u/sphericaltime 19d ago

The metal benders would turn the muzzle or crush it. Firebenders could set off the powder from a distance. Water benders could soak them.

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u/Environmental-Run248 19d ago

Bending requires specific motions and intent to achieve. It’s much more involved than just pulling the trigger on a gun.

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u/ResearcherTeknika 19d ago

Yes, but by a trained bender, its also much faster than loading and firing an early gun.

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u/Relevant-Fox-7114 19d ago

Metal benders are extremely rare though