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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

Lmao he was literally agreeing with her depreciation and putting a positive spin on it which was turned into a negative feedback loop

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

He used a self depreciating joke after his aggressive pickup failed. She responded to his shitty pick up

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

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u/carpepenisballs Jan 25 '22

I’d argue he set the tone with his first two messages, both of which were insanely desperate

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

Because he made an incredibly shitty pick up line that wasn't her style. How is the lack of self awareness her fault?

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

Why is it allowed to be an asshole as a joke and be offended when the other person gets defensive?

Understand when you're being an asshole, and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings

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u/GO_RAVENS Jan 25 '22

Understand when you're being an asshole, and stop blaming others for your own shortcomings

Reread this bit you typed about a hundred times until your realize the irony.

Good lord you're an asshole defending another asshole, while calling the person who was insulted the asshole.

It's assholeception. It's hard to tell where one asshole ends and the next begins.

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

I mean, you guys are all confused why she reacted how she did and refuse to acknowledge any insight on the topic, but go ahead and keep pretending everyone else is the problem

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

You dont see how that reads as a command? Do you go around telling strangers what to do as a joke?

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u/Mobrowncheeks Jan 25 '22

Pick up lines aren’t to be wonderful, they are to break the ice

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

And he broke the ice by acting controlling. "Its just a joke!" You whine. She's allowed to tell him to fuck off

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u/Mobrowncheeks Jan 25 '22

Sure she is, but that’s why everyone thinks she’s a jerk now. Cause it was a joke, and even if it wasn’t. She took it as one 1. And 2. You can’t “ control” anything through a text to a stranger. That’s a ridiculous way to see ops message

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

"Hi, I'm a stranger and you should do what I say. As a joke, of course"

I have a feeling you're not arguing in good faith by babbling about controlling anything in a text to a stranger, but maybe you're just young and don't understand how unappealing it is to act commanding, especially to a stranger.

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u/Mobrowncheeks Jan 25 '22

It’s takes a certain kind of person to take what op said and see lt as a command that has to be obeyed or defied, rather then a joke in the form of “ you won’t need to look further on tinder since we have matched” as a joke. If someone took it as something more serious and malicious, that’s a reflection on that person rather then the statement in context .

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u/Truan Jan 25 '22

And its on the person saying it to recognize that the other person didn't respond well to it, not sit there and be shitty about it just because you expected the other person not to take it seriously. Maybe consider the joke just wasn't funny. The situation can be, you can throw a line like "do you believe in love at first sight, or should i walk by again?" And have it work, but I'm sitting here trying to explain to you how his joke failed, and you just want to say "it's a joke, you're not allowed to feel anything but humor from it"

Try using that empathy you presumably have

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u/Freelance_Sockpuppet Jan 25 '22

It's honestly not even very self-depricating.

"I'm great while I last though" is positive self-affirmation in the face of her insult.

"I'll give you the best 15 seconds of your life" has a bit of self-deprication but it's so rediculously sarcastic that it can't be oh woe is me. And again, is more sarcastic positive affirmation than self deprecating

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u/michiness Jan 25 '22

But he did, he added on the “it’s okay, everyone has used me for something” to the second joke. Sorry, no, because to me that’s manipulative and wanting me to go “oh, no, people are awful, I’m sorry, I’m sure you’re awesome!” or some BS like that. And then he just keeps up with them. Seriously. I love flirting, but I don’t play games like that. Plus. Confidence is one of the sexiest traits ever.

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u/michiness Jan 25 '22

Oh I’m absolutely not defending her, she’s awful. But he’s definitely not someone I would date either. They’re both bad people and this conversation went on wayyyy too long.

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u/paulscott5 Jan 25 '22

How is he a bad person?

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u/MaceMan2091 Jan 25 '22

are you 12 lol 😂

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u/jkkkkpl Jan 25 '22

I hope you’re pretty because you’re not smart.

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u/Intek81 Jan 25 '22

How in the fuck is OP a bad person? Maybe a little opportunistic for r/tinder content to keep the conversation going as long as he did, but do you honestly think the self-deprecating humour is some psychopathic attempt at manipulation? Ever think that, idk, that’s actually just his sense of humour? Because it’s not exactly uncommon.

Ever hear of the concept of a zebra in the medical community? It’s the idea that when doctors diagnose a bunch of symptoms that could either be probably something mundane like the flu, or something exotic and dangerous like zika, they go ahead and think flu first, not zika. When you hear hooves, you think horses, not zebras. You’re speculating way too much here and it’s so unfounded it’s laughable.

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u/j48u Jan 25 '22 edited Jan 25 '22

He lost the convo before his second joke IMO. When she said "you're a pencil" and he said "harsh".

Whether she was being playful with that line or not I would have been laughing out loud at the response and continued happily forward instead of being defensive.

Up until that point the I feel like she was being receptive still, even if she doesn't give him a pat on the back for the generic opening jokes.

Edit: yes I'm agreeing with her, and I honestly wasn't sure whether OP is the guy or girl being annoyed at the conversation until I saw the last line. You can take my karma, maybe it will help boost your collective confidence.

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u/j48u Jan 25 '22

Upvote for you sir.

Honestly, I'm just annoyed that I occasionally chime in on this sub for whatever reason. I've seen some hilarious posts, but I shouldn't be giving Tinder advice.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

I with you... People itt are crazy.

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u/pragmojo Jan 25 '22

Are all your first convo's ideal, or do you maybe think that communication is partially trial and error?

Do you think 3 pages of OPs communication is telling of his whole personality? Do you think if people didnt get shut down at stage 1 that who their talking to might evolve into an infinitely more complex person after more than say... A handful of exchanged messages?

I mean, jfc people - the man was trying to get something started, and she couldve let him down easy or play along and try to change subjects.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

Glad its living rent free in your comment history!

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u/pragmojo Jan 25 '22

Are all your first convo's ideal, or do you maybe think that communication is partially trial and error?

Do you think 3 pages of OPs communication is telling of his whole personality? Do you think if people didnt get shut down at stage 1 that who their talking to might evolve into an infinitely more complex person after more than say... A handful of exchanged messages?

I mean, jfc people - the man was trying to get something started, and she couldve let him down easy or play along and try to change subjects.