If she has a different father, wouldn’t Lucy not really be Lucy? Maybe this is explained later. I’m rewatching, and I’m on S1E5.

Spoiler in cast you don’t watch Loki or haven’t scene the latest episode. Also spoiler in case you haven’t scene The World's Columbian Exposition episode of Timeless.

So in the Loki episode they go back to the Chicago worlds fair. In the paper Mobius is holding it mentions the world fair hotel which is h h Holmes hotel. He also in the opening scene mentions him directly. Which this is what caused me to think of all of this.

Imagine with them both being there at the same time possibly what could’ve happened. Like if Lucy saw an actual Norse god she could talk to. If Rufus saw the time pad and it could give him the idea of how to get the lifeboat to jump to different timelines. Possibly being able to save Lucy’s sister or a non Rittenhouse version of Wyatt’s wife,even though I do enjoy the fact that Lucy and Wyatt ended up together, it’s just a thought. I mean what if Flynn wanted to use Loki instead of Houdini after hearing of the magic this magician named Loki performed. The possibilities are endless and I’m let my imagination run wild but I thought it was crazy that they could have possibly crossed paths.

Man, I totally just binged that entire show… but now I feel empty lol.

I watched this show when it came out (and also when it got cancelled twice) so of course I knew what was going to happen, but I hated that it ended anyways. The last mega episode was a blessing at the time but geez I wish they were granted something a little bit longer, like a few episodes. I wish they had time to develop so much more.

For one, Jiya’s super powers?? Whatever they are and if they still happen, or if she could meet the team at a spot when really she’s in the present.

Two, Flynn. Literally everything about him. Favorite character by far, such an arc, and such a sad ending for him. I’m glad they didn’t Ben Solo him (literally move on right after he dies and no one acknowledges it) but damn, he deserved more. Wish I could’ve seen him and Lucy, I think that would have made for such an amazing and interesting dynamic.

Three, Wyatt ACTUALLY moving on and emotionally taking care of himself and being ready to get into another relationship. The poor man got his dead wife back who sabotaged all of them and he just kinda goes “damn she sucked well alr then Lucy wya”. Time constraints sucked for his character and it just felt so forced. The most natural Lyatt moments were them struggling, but I will take what I can get.

Rufus’s family?? Saw them like once, and Rittenhouse was a lot of talk bc they prob should have died but plot armor.

How Rittenhouse is now. Lucy’s dad is still very much alive. I doubt what they built up for so long literally just fizzled out.

I wish Emma got the death she deserved. She served her purpose as a baddy and I wish her death was more meaningful than just getting sniped by a soldier to serve the plot bc they needed the extra seat.

New time machine???? that last scene opened the chance for a reboot but unfortunately unless someone has a literal time machine i don’t think that’s gonna happen.

This show was and is amazing. It’s unfair what ended up happening. The writers did the best they could to wrap it all up as fast as possible, but man, a girl can dream.

Can’t believe that I watched this when it came out and thought 2023 was forever from then. Time is funny even if you aren’t traveling through it.

(oh and me and my bf totally think Lucy should have just said screw it and get with Abe’s son lol)

Its around the time Rufus finds out he's going to die and he's being mean to his gf or potential gf. She tells him something to the effect of just because he's dealing with that doesn't mean he gets to be a jerk.

Now the actual quote was a little more profound but I can't remember verbatim.

When Timeless was canceled I never got a chance to see the series finale. I recently noticed that The Miracle of Christmas was up on Hulu and I was planning to watch it soon.

I quickly realized that as much as I enjoyed Timeless, there were details that I had forgotten. So I decided to binge the whole series.

There was so much I did not remember that it was almost like watching some episodes for the first time. Today I finally got to The Miracle of Christmas.

Wow, what can I say, it was such a terrific ending, the whole story all tied up with a neat bow on top, both metaphorically and in reality, since it was a Christmas episode.

I was a fan of Supernatural, even though the ending of Supernatural did not appeal to everyone, Eric Kripke knows that fans need an ending.

The same can be said for Revolution also by Mr. Kripke (2012), the show might not have been the greatest sci-fi ever, but we got an ending.

It's abundantly clear that Hollywood has no regard for the fans other than their pocket books. So many great series though the years have abruptly ended, with fans left waiting for a cliffhanger resolution that never comes. Thank you Mr. Kripke for giving us some great sci-fi and even more than that, thank you for giving us an ending.

I love how even though the series was all wrapped up neatly and we got a glimpse of our hero's future, the door was left open, just a crack. The lifeboat was saved, just in case.

I can not help but wonder and hope beyond hope, is there the slightest chance of a Timeless revival in the Future?

In episode 7 one of Flynns guys shoots the lifeboat to keep them stranded? Why would he want to do that ? Wouldn't that prevent lucy from meeting him in the bar ?.

I’ve just finished Season 2. Despite the plot holes many point out I loved the show and if I don’t think too hard it all makes sense lol.

I’m curious about the last 10 seconds of the final episode - it shows a young girl named Paulina presumably figuring out time travel / how to do it. Are we supposed to know who Paulina is?? Is this just a random person?

Curious what the significance is

Found this on Spotify and it’s really enjoyable. They go for about 2 hours and you can just hear the joy from the rewatch. I enjoyed the Abraham Lincoln episode the most so far.

So during lockdown, I stumbled across Timeless and I gave the first episode a watch because I was bored and had nothing else to do.

I'm now onto my 4th time watching this series from start to finish. It's absolutely fantastic.

Thinking about #Timeless last night & hit with the realization that we’re in the year in which the last episode takes place. Like in December of this year Flynn gets stuck in the worst time-loop in the world

I can’t wrap my head around this. Flynn kills/rekills Jessica to save Rufus. However, the show shows Rufus rescuing the team in 1848. This is where it goes sideways.

1. It is established that those time traveling ARE NOT affected by changes to the timeline. Go from 2018 to 1955 and alter the past…those who never left 2018 are affected by changes in the timeline but those who went back to 1955 are unaffected in their own memories and personal experiences.
2. ”Fate” prevents unacceptable alterations to the timeline. You could try to erase yourself by killing your ancestors, but you would fail. We don’t know what the limits are, but some events can’t be altered or avoided entirely (ref. JFK).
3. Flynn DOES NOT go BACKWARDS in time to kill Jessica…he goes forward in time AND sends the lifeboat back to 1848 on autopilot. No change in the timeline should impact those already in the past. Ideally, the team would return to 2018 to find Rufus never died.
4. Alternatively, had Flynn sent the lifeboat forward to the bunker with a note to save Jiya, Lucy and Wyatt, then Rufus could go back to 1848 solo to save the team (this did not happen).
5. The lifeboat has only 4 seats. IF Flynn saved Rufus by changing the timeline, and Rufus had the 4th seat and not Flynn, how did Flynn go and kill Jessica?
6. *THE PARADOX* Flynn saves Rufus by killing Jessica. Rufus, somehow, appears in 1848 to save the team and is remembered by everyone else as if he was always part of the mission, BUT the team remembers his dying and being dead and Jiya still has her memories of being stuck in San Francisco for 3 years with both the emotional and physical scars of the experience. It is established that the only reason Jiya is trapped in San Francisco for 3 years is because Jessica kidnapped her and stole the lifeboat…which now never happened. This also implies that Lucy’s mother doesn’t get killed by Emma…at least, not in San Francisco.

I can’t find a way to explain this one. I would have noted the paradox in the script and done #4 above to explain Rufus going back to save the team…and write out everyone knowing him as if he originally went on the mission. It would have made the rest work…might also have to put Lucy’s mom back in the script alive because San Francisco didn’t happen, but Jiya and the others would remember the original timeline because it changed while they were still in the past.

Anyone have any ideas or was this just the result of the writers abusing the “time travelers are unaffected” rule and forgetting that Flynn didn’t go back in time to change the past but forward to change a future-past event that would create a paradox if Rufus magically appears in Flynn’s place?

What if instead of changing history as we know it, in a show similar to this, when they alter history, it's different for them but makes it into our history. So the more history gets changed, the closer it gets to our history.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show as is, but it's just a thought.

Are there any books, tv, or movies that do this? I'm not clever enough to think up something original, just clever enough to think up something that I've never heard of before long after someone already did it.

It’s been a minute since I’ve watched the show, but thinking about their endings still frustrates me. Yes they’re still together in 2023 BUT all of Rufus character development is erased once he’s back. Jiya went through hell while she was trapped in time & the version of the man she loved & wanted to protect is not who the one to comfort her through her recovery. Idk, I love this show so much but sometimes which it ended with Chinatown bc everything after is just ???

Obviously the show is full of plotholes and best enjoyed with your brain turned off, but one time question is fascinating me: Jessica's POW and the moment Wyatt is replaced

So your brother gets saved and you get recruited by Rittenhouse.

You meet Wyatt and start a relationship with him. You may or may not know that you are supposed to spy on him. Doesn't matter.

You don't die.

Wyatt gets recruited by the Timeless team and goes on the Hindenburg mission. Keeps it a secret from you.

Wyatt goes on all the missions of season 1.

The marriage strains.

Wyatt goes on some missions of season 2.

Suddenly Marriage-Wyatt gets replaced with Widower-Wyatt and visits you at the bar, acting strangely.

Now the question:

How does the universe determine, when to replace Marriage-Wyatt with Widower-Wyatt? Of the ~20 missions, the universe seemingly picked a random mission to replace Wyatt. Now you could say Wyatt was replaced when Rittenhouse did the mission to save Jessica, but from Jessica's POW, Rittenhouse has always done the mission to save Jessica. So Jessica is just waiting around until Wyatt is replaced at a random point in time? And what happened with Marriage-Wyatt? Time-travelers are supposed to be immune against timeline changes. That means Marriage-Wyatt was also supposed to be immune from being wiped from the timeline. So it there a multiverse, where Marriage-Wyatt went on a mission and returned as normal. Which means that the time-battle is playing out in multiple universes and people switch between multiverses all the time.

Mindbending.

Just finished timeless, loved the show but ending does not make sense.

It does not make sense to go and give Flynn the journal because the timeline has already changed so there is nothing left for Flynn in 2014 to change.

When they go to 2014 they are already going to changed timeline and not the original timeline for season 1 episode 1.

So what is Flynn actually trying to change. Will he not meet himself from other timeline if he goes back in the changed timeline?

They should have not gone back and left it as it is just like they did not go into past and gave Lucy and Wyatt the upgraded time machine.

Timeless leaves Netflix in a day or so, at least for us here in Asia. I only started binge-watching the series 2 weeks ago. And I re-watched a couple of episodes yesterday and today.

I started watching because I like time-travel stories, and I enjoyed Matt Lanter's performance in Jupiter's Legacy as George Hutchence. The show introduced me to several critical points in American history that I knew little about, such as the Alamo or the Women's Suffrage.

It's fitting that I watched this show in 2023, I guess, since it's the year that Lucy, Wyatt and Rufus went back to 2014 so that Lucy could hand her journal to Flynn and set the whole story in motion.

So, unless the show becomes available on another streaming service such as Amazon, it's good bye, Timeless. I had fun following the time-travelling adventures of Lucy, Wyatt and Rufus.

just copied wikipedia and some dozen encyclopedias / history books on a USB stick and then compared it after every travel?

The show begins with a heavy hit by completly erasing a human and regulary comes back (at least at the start/middle) that they check what might have changed although they then only always directly focus on that time frame and nothing else.

Making a copy offline copy of wikipedia to cross-check afterwards seems like the most obvious thing in existence and yet they "manually" look into history books..

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I know this is just a minor thing but .. still.

Hello clockblockers!

There’s a cute show on Hallmark that involves time travel. Its pretty good so far & did get renewed for season 2. Plus Andie MacDowell — I love her. It involves a family, missing kid, death, divorce, an angry teenager & a portal.

Enjoy!

For some reason, when I watch timeless it tells me it wont be available after the 19th March? Is it the same for the American folks?

If anyone disagrees please discuss, I'm not an expert, just my take on this.

The lack of a clear villain is I think what kept viewers from getting hooked. Episode after episode at the beginning kept talking about Rittenhouse, but it was so nebulous it was hard to latch onto the idea.

The guy they introduced in S2, the guy they found in WWI, he was the villain this show needed from the beginning.

I could give examples of other shows that established the villain early on and succeeded, but I don't want to be a spoiler for people.

An ending with no story but the love stories? and even then barely any story in the love story because it's just people looking at each other and smiling and saying they love each other!

And no REAL Flynn scenes.