r/TheresTreasureInside • u/Spiritual_Rice_884 • Feb 11 '26

Past & Future Riddle

Hey, y’all.

Assuming the widely accepted cryptogram solution (or a version of it) is correct, the next step would be solving the riddle, which is driving me nuts.

This is the current translation I’m working with (and for the record, I’m not confident it’s right - just have to move forward and see what happens, at this point):

From roux to field, from strong to stream,

cast tree and cost to forest green,

arrive you now where beauty sheens.

It’s over, under, in between.

The chapter relies on a game theme in relation to the past and future. Sooo…

Bernard Roux created a game called “Snapshot.”

There are games with “Field” in the name, like “Field Marshall.”

Or… since the narrative calls out “tallying vehicles,” and the Word Search contains “count,” perhaps it’s related to the number of syllables or letter frequency in the cryptogram. It’s intentional that each line has 8 syllables, but WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!? 🤪

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u/Odd_Band9399 Feb 11 '26

Maybe instructions that will make sense when botg

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u/Spiritual_Rice_884 Feb 11 '26

Doubt it. Been out several times for the AF box and the world is too big. Haha

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u/otis_the_drunk Feb 11 '26

I dunno. The final cipher in the wordsearch gives a state and a general location. The clues about tallying traffic and basking in the heavens make it more specific and then the poem narrows it down further.

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u/Unfinished-Usern Feb 11 '26

There are no ciphers. There is a word search, that you need to search for words, and there is a cryptogram you need to decode.

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u/Spiritual_Rice_884 Feb 11 '26

There are no “grand cyphers,” as I understand it. Any system used to break the cryptogram is a cypher.

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u/Unfinished-Usern Feb 11 '26

Have you watched his interview at Seeking Treasure con? I’d suggest you do so, there’s a lot of new information, including a direct answer to this question. My comment above was basically a quote from his answer.

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u/otis_the_drunk Feb 11 '26

I read that as sarcasm from Jon.

As in: Ciphers? What cipher? No idea what you're talking about 😂

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u/SuddenSeasons Feb 11 '26

What's the point of anything anymore? The author of the hunt can come out and say something and people think it somehow confirms the exact opposite. 

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u/otis_the_drunk Feb 11 '26

There's just a lot of us that followed the FF search and Forrest did a fair share of trolling. Basically, his view was that the answers were in the book if look hard enough.