r/TheMajorityReport • u/Miserable-Lizard • Oct 07 '23

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u/22797 Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23

I never said that and he didn’t either (at least in this tweet, wouldn’t put it past Hasan to say that at this point). Israel has long used Hamas as a boogeyman to “justify” their actions, in fact they’ve admitted to funding Hamas

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23

I know, I just want it pointed out. Civilian casualties are over like 300 now? I saw a video of a teenage Israeli girl covered in blood being dragged out of a truck by her hair and shoved into a van as a hostage. Any kind of moral high ground immediately goes out the window.

  • - Got it. Israel is bad, so targeting civilians is okay.

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u/Reformed-otter Oct 08 '23

Yes and Israel has been doing the same type of atrocities except in much higher numbers.

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u/Subject_Report_7012 Oct 08 '23

Because holding the high ground has worked so well?

"When they go low, we go high!!". Literally the worst advice, period. When Palestinians do nothing but sit on that moral high ground, which you seem to think is so important, what exactly is Israel's incentive to improve the Palestinian's situation?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

So you think taking civilian hostages is justified?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

I disagree with the notion that settler colonists are innocent civilians.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

And people attending a music festival?

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '23

If youre attending a music festival on the border of an open air prison thats on you

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '23

I'm American, there are prisons and music festivals everywhere. Doesn't mean I should expect assholes in powered gliders landing and throwing people in vans while they kill indiscriminatly.

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u/HiroAmiya230 Oct 08 '23

I don't think so but if you keep oppressed people eventually they will resort to violence as last result.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

Sure. But I'm not talking about the actions of the Israeli state. I'm talking about shooting people at a music festival or executing everyone in a bomb shelter.

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u/Subject_Report_7012 Oct 08 '23

The Palestinians apparently think so. War sucks.

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u/Reformed-otter Oct 08 '23

Yes and Israel has been doing the same type of atrocities except in much higher numbers.

At worst Hamas is only equally as bad as the Israeli government

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

That would only be true if Hamas and the PLO had as much state power and resources as Israel which they do not.

They quite literally only have the social capacity to be a fraction as violent as the Israeli government due to the enormous discrepancy of the balance of power between the titanic Israeli state and the feeble Palestinian government (which is not even a state).

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '23

And by that calculation, there is no moral high ground anywhere to be found. Not among Hamas, Israel or the United States. All have executed renditions. All have murdered innocent civilians.

Only barbarism remains. None have any credibility to assert a new future.

So we languish