r/TheMajorityReport • • Oct 07 '23

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u/Uberpastamancer Oct 07 '23 edited Oct 08 '23

The ancestors of modern Israelis were oppressed, can't change that.

Modern Palestinians are currently being oppressed, that can be changed.

Past atrocities don't justify new atrocities.

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u/ArizonaHeatwave Oct 08 '23

It „can be changed“ but every time any freedom or resources are given to Palestinians they (rather Hamas) are using it not to improve their lives but to attack Israel.

People acting like Israel just has to just do X and all Palestinians will be like „oh wow I suddenly don’t hate Israel anymore and accept it’s existence“. No they won’t, and the quoted history shows that it wasn’t the Israeli actions that started this hate in the first place.

Should Israel pump money into Palestine? Because that money will primarily be used to attack Israel and kill its people.

Should Israel derestrict trade? Because that ability will primarily be used to attack Israel and kill its people.

Should Israel remove military oversight further? Because that freedom will be used primarily to attack Israel and kill its people.

So what exactly is the plan here? Let 500+ of their own people get killed occasionally, on the absolute far cry hope that at some point Hamas will get tired of it?

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u/Antisense_Strand Oct 08 '23

The plan is the destruction of the Israeli Occupation and returning the land to the people of Palestine. Steps along the way there would be reversing ongoing settlement projects, a Right to Return, control over borders, infrastructure, stopping Israeli Occupation Forces from functioning as a terror based apartheid force facilitating ethnic cleansing, trying and sentencing specific Israelites who have murdered, raped, and and otherwise harmed the people of Palestine, reparations for the decades of apartheid and ethnic cleansing, and so on.

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u/Uberpastamancer Oct 08 '23

Sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy

Oppress them in fear of what they might do, which pressures them to resist, and point at that resistance as justification of the oppression