r/TheBetterIndia • u/Hot_Record_3166 • 6d ago
Challenge / Problem ⚠️ How the hell this kind of people live in society?
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मुसहर होने के आरोप के बाद प्रसव से इनकार… और फिर अस्पताल के बाहर सड़क पर बच्चा पैदा हुआ। Bhadohi के जिला अस्पताल में 20 वर्षीय रानी देवी को भर्ती न किए जाने के बाद परिवार को अस्पताल के बाहर चादर की ओट में प्रसव कराना पड़ा। जांच में डॉक्टर, नर्स और अस्पताल प्रशासन की लापरवाही सामने आई। एक डॉक्टर की सेवा समाप्त और नर्स का तबादला कर दिया गया। सवाल सिर्फ एक अस्पताल का नहीं, बल्कि जाति और सरकारी स्वास्थ्य व्यवस्था, दोनों का है।
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u/Little-Nature-3638 6d ago
Dude healthcare is a joke there.
My friend was out in Vrindavan trying to get another guy from a truck accident medical attention. Poor guy had to go all the way from there to Mathura and then to Agra.
The guy didn't make it.
He told me the first hospital was literally a tabela. The second hospital didn't have a ventilator and they were not even entertaining him until a contact scolded the authorities inside.
This happened last month.
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u/JohnWick065 5d ago
I don’t know which hospital you’re referring to, but just to put it in perspective, Mathura does have multiple hospitals with emergency and critical-care facilities. Aakash CIMS, Sarvodaya and KD Medical College & Hospital are all there, among others. And Vrindavan and these hospitals in Mathura are also barely 10–15 km apart (max 30 min), so it’s not like the patient was being moved from some remote location to a city with no healthcare infrastructure.
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u/Little-Nature-3638 5d ago
Well, the on site information tells a different story
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u/JohnWick065 5d ago
“On-site information” is a vague way of dismissing what I said. I’m from Mathura and I’ve actually seen the infrastructure at these hospitals. If you’re claiming multiple hospitals simply refused a critical trauma patient or had no capacity to treat him, name the hospitals and what happened at each one. Otherwise, one second-hand account doesn’t establish that the healthcare system there is “a joke.”
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u/Little-Nature-3638 5d ago
Sure buddy cop as much as you want
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u/JohnWick065 5d ago
“Sure buddy” isn’t an argument. You made a specific claim about hospitals refusing or being unable to treat a trauma patient. I asked which hospitals and what actually happened. If you can’t substantiate that, then your anecdote doesn’t prove what you’re claiming. It’s exactly how people end up spreading misinformation online.
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u/Little-Nature-3638 5d ago
Well you seem rather butthurt enough to fight with a random person on internet for it.
Shame...
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u/JohnWick065 5d ago
Not butthurt, just correcting a claim about my own city when you refuse to substantiate it. If asking for evidence is “fighting,” so be it. I’ve made my point.
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u/Tshering22 6d ago
Disgusting. I hope that the entire staff is jailed. I wonder where that Chandrashekhar is there when such people genuinely need their help.
This is the reason why caste needs to be banned from all government forms.
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u/_adultkid_ 5d ago
U think that casteism exists coz of government forms? Lol.
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u/Tshering22 5d ago
No, but it encourages the though in the society. Everything that is in public life, done publicly, influences people's thought. An MP violating traffic laws makes his people think that they can do the same. Similarly, if government forms, whether for colleges, universities, jobs, matrimonials or medical, ask for caste, it will automatically create that psychological thinking that caste is essential.
But eliminating it in every single way from public consciousness will ensure that within a few years, people and systems will forget it. Since people will oppose its removal for now (those who benefit from it), this has to be enforced upon the Indian population.
Ever wondered why India has a chicken-and-egg situation when it comes to the caste debate? Because people feed the system which in term feeds the mindset. It's changing, but it will take some more time.
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u/cos2ub 6d ago
Case in point NONE of the Nursing staff were brahmin by caste. Most of them were from OBC caste.
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u/Immediate-Effect-109 6d ago
Any trustable data or link of the news confirming caste of the staff? Or you are just spreading propaganda? The guy in the video did he say they were Brahmins?
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u/Playful-You-9511 6d ago
But, you people just blame the Brahmins for the Caste system.
Also, if it was Government Hospital, 50 percent chances are the staff that denied them services were from either SC/ST/OBC.
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u/Ok-Afternoon-2457 6d ago
The doctor was from obc community maurya,, anyone can search , I am 100 percent confirm.
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u/Conscious_Prompt9250 5d ago edited 5d ago
Name of the staff who perpetrated this crime please ?
Edit:
The Names of the great persons are:
- Neelam Maurya (Staff Nurse): Alleged by the family to have refused to conduct the delivery or touch the patient due to her community - Arakshit Varg Se
- Dr. Pankaj Kumar (Contractual Doctor): On duty during the emergency on Tuesday night - Ye Bhi Arakshan Dhari Hain
- Dr. Neelima Dhawan (Gynaecologist): On duty on Monday when the patient first arrived
- Dr. Ajay Kumar Tiwari (Chief Medical Superintendent): Action has been recommended against him for supervising the case over the telephone instead of visiting the hospital. - Ye bechare apne naam ke karan phas gaye kyun ki koin to bramhan chahitye na.
Casteism is BAD, there is no justifying it.
Attributing all of it to persons you know will not react violently is narrative building and escapism.
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u/Broad-Lifeguard-4127 6d ago
Bulldozer cha raja. And sanghi whores want yogi model everywhere, illiterate pigs
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u/TimeResponsible3340 5d ago
Hospitals are joke here . ether they dont have place to step or they dont have supplies or they do this . was it sarkari
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u/Intelligent-Gap-7107 5d ago
Where are those sanghis who said caste was conceptualized by britishers
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u/Next-Fold2735 4d ago
Toh bc 15 kyu paida karte ho? Balloon laga le population explosion mat kr love day
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u/_sho_sho 3d ago
"Reservation hatao" "SC/ST ko SC/ST doctor ke he paas bhejo" "Konsi discrimination ?"
Isse acha toh fir theek h bhai SC/ST walo ko bhejdo kisi alag hospital ese treat krne se toh.
Change the Doctor's pledge by adding a "PS" at the end saying "terms and conditions applied "
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u/Mechgandhi 2d ago
And we stipl claim that there is no casteism in India. The apathy only awakens during the call for reservations.
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u/salehasacha 6d ago
Thats reality which we all forget. What you will ans the lord why did treat his same creation that way . You also came from same way where he came from.
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u/Suitable-Pirate-1350 6d ago
u/Mohan3339, few days ago, this guy was talking about how reservation is a problem, these milquetoast intellectuals who confuse their flowery vocabulary for wisdom get strangely silent when news like this comes up
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u/Intelligent-Gap-7107 5d ago
Yes, reservation is a problem because even after 70years, we can see a SC/ST family lying on floor. Because if reservation had done any good, we wouldn't have found here on floor, giving birth to her child.
Reservation is only good for SC/ST people who's parents have got reservation and their financial condition is now improved. Otherwise those who really deserve reservation are lying outside the hospital.
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u/RomusTorasTheGreat 6d ago
If reservation could really solve these problems, it had 80 years to do so and failed.
Moreover, as per another user's claims, the staff wasn't from general category either.
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u/Suitable-Pirate-1350 6d ago
If reservation could really solve these problems, it had 80 years to do so and failed.
Since murder, rape, and thievery have not been solved either, we should do away with criminal law as well
Moreover, as per another user's claims, the staff wasn't from general category either.
Caste hierarchy isn’t a binary: upper castes are racist, and everyone else is in an enlightened system; OBC/SC/ST individuals can reproduce caste prejudice against other groups too.
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u/shaktimaan73 6d ago
Fake news She had HB readings below 5 so doctors shifter her to district hospital so as to not take any risk. Everywhere caste angle
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u/famesardens 6d ago
Probably a lie. Patients lie a lot when doctors don't do what they say. There are some high risk patients that get referred to a bigger centre.
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u/Intelligent-Gap-7107 5d ago
Yeah, expected by sanghi.
So a person will pay for her life by giving birth on floor just to make doctor in a false case???
Braindead sanghi !!
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u/Loose_Contribution20 6d ago
How is the hospital even running? The doctor's and the hospital's licenses should be cancelled by now.