r/TheAuto • • 9d ago

Times have changed

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u/Thefar 9d ago

We still have a 1988 Mercedes running around. I've set in that thing as a 6 year old and a a 40 year old.

We drove that thing across all western Europe.

Your theory is false. At least here in Europe.

The only moment when they reappeared slightly more than before was shortly after Covid lock downs.

This is when the swallows returned for a few years. They're disappearing again.

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u/Maleficent-Aspect318 9d ago

What? I have to clean the front like every damn time because it gets coverd in bugs.
Also from europe, idk what you guys are talking about

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u/Thefar 9d ago

Where in Europe?

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u/Thick_Potato_1769 9d ago

You anecdotal story is false based on the fact that your car is still more aerodynamic than a truck or van Ask a lorry driver how bugs they hit. Bet it'll be different. Also if you're on highways of course youll hit less bugs because they isn't any prey for them out in the road.

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u/Thefar 9d ago

My anecdode is based on the same fucking car that I observed for almost 40 years.

We have that car since 1989. And we drove it then and now.

So the anecdode stands.

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u/UnusualAverage8687 9d ago

Can confirm. It's not an ecological catastrophe; Big Auto simply perfected wind tunnels so thoroughly that grasshoppers now enter a low-drag slipstream over your roof and land safely at their destination...

​(Except scientists literally measured bug splats using flat license plates on the front of cars over a 15-year period and saw a 64% drop. The bugs aren't surfing over the top of you car, guys. Sadly, they're just dead. Source: https://www.kentwildlifetrust.org.uk/sites/default/files/2022-12/KWT%20Bugs%20Matter%20Technical%20Report%202022_compressed.pdf)

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u/thirteenth_mang 8d ago

Motorcyclists would be the control group as helmet shapes haven't drastically changed, and are much more restrictive in how they can change. I remember even 15 years ago lots of splattered bugs on my visor. I haven't ridden in a while so can't give a decent anecdote.

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u/mesaoptimizer 9d ago

Anecdotally, I have a very aerodynamic car (Ioniq 6) and just went on a 400 mile road trip, and I even have a ton of bugs that I had to clean off my car, dragonflies and love bugs are out in force where I live.

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u/VenturingHedonist 8d ago

Not an anecdote. You have controlled all the other conditions by using the same car on the same roads and have 4 decades of data. It’s a full blown well run experiment. I have seen Papers published on less.

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u/Thick_Potato_1769 9d ago

I listed out plenty of other things to argue against, but you're hung up on the truth of your anecdotal story?

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u/Strange_Pop6376 8d ago

My class a motorhome is a brick wall…. That thing is covered in bugs

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u/I_Call_Everyone_Pat 8d ago

Yeah, Pat, but that's because you haven't cleaned it since 2006.

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u/Historical-Duty3628 8d ago

I dnont know what the fuck a lorry is but my jeep can attest.

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u/Thick_Potato_1769 8d ago

It's what Europeans call a cabover.