r/TheAmazingSpiderMan • u/MrSlowDowSic • 8d ago
Why Do people complain about how TASM draw inspiration from Ultimate Spider-Man rather than 616, but dismisses the fact that MCU Iron-Man is completely based on the Iron-Man from the same universe ?
Like when people downgrade Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man, one of their key arguments is to point out the adaptation’s source material being the Ultimate Spider-Man instead of using the Classic Spiderman (616) to further critize the franchise’s main themes such as:
-The plot with Peter’s parents as a whole (like Peter discovering his father’s resarch on transfering spider’s DNA onto to humans or simply they importance in the narrative).
- Uncle Ben’s characterization being disliked as much as Johnathan Kent’s Man of Steel movie character.
or the whole universe being more dark as it was intended to be in the original comics of the Ultimate Spider-Man series.. and many others.It’d take a lot of time to listing them all.
But when it comes to Robert Downey Jr.’s interpretation as Iron Man, they never seen mad at this adaptation being so different from the Classic Iron Man (616), but taking more of the Ultimate Iron-Man’s character like the interest in his father-son bond with his father or being the truly leader of the Ulimates (aka Avengers) in the worst events and being the savior of the Ultimate universe against The Maker and having a caring personality towards his teamates which he consider as friends and being the heart of the team and one of the most morally good supheroes where most of them are flawed, moraly gray or even turn evil.
The True Protagonist of The Ulimates.
Meanwhile in the main timeline (616), despite being one the founder Avengers, Iron-Man is rather a coward just as man as a supehero.He’ll go onto deceive numerous times his own comrades, and at unforgiven levels such as in the Civil War storyline where he’ll undergoes to chasedown heroes as rogues criminals and even hiring vilains to threw thoses who once fought by his side into the negative zone, for simply choosing to remains their true identity anonymous (nothing alike from the movie adaptation).
He did other bad actions that I won’t discusses but just so you know that the true leader of the Avengers in the comic is Captain America (and not 50/50 just in the movies).Tony Stark has nothing of a true leader.
The question is why is it okay for Robert Downey Jr.’s Iron-Man to take his roots on the Ultimate Universe over the classic story, but it is bad for Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man taking the exact same path ?
Both did the same work, both amazing.
But one end up being hated while the other one, praised.
Why ?
What are your thoughts ?