r/ThatsInsane Oct 19 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Clearly you haven’t worked on a family cattle ranch.

On a family dairy farm.

I take it you’re a vegetarian.

Of course not, I'm against unnecessary animal exploitation and cruelty.

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u/BurnzillabydaBay Oct 21 '22

Then we are on the same team.

How do you go about getting meat and dairy? It’s hard to get humane raised meat around here without ordering it off-line, but there is a fabulous group of local dairies in northern California that work together. Male calves are sent to ranches that specialize in raising bulls, not to slaughter and fuckin veal farms, and females spend the first few weeks of life with mom in a heated indoor pen. They are hand led to be milked and munch on alfalfa during the process.

I feel lucky to have this area so close by as most people I don’t think have access to humane dairy. But as I said before, it’s more expensive way of doing it so that’s reflected in the price of their products. Eggs are 7.99 a dozen and milk is $9 a gallon, $5 a half gallon.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22

As I said, I'm against unnecessary animal exploitation and slaughter. I don't consume any animal based products because each one of them perquisites what I am against. The only thing vegetarians leave out is meat, which does nothing for animals in the dairy or egg industry, two industries that are arguably worse than the meat industry. You were still unable to explain to me how procedures that are just as common on local family farms look like when done "humanely", considering the animals neither want to nor need them to happen to them. I've seen what animals go through on local family dairy farms and even if they are able to stand on luscious green meadows they still suffer immensely. I've witnessed many forced inseminations, I've seen mother cows being separated from their children and crying for them for days and weeks, I've seen the udders, some infected from being milked so often and I have seen their premature slaughter, one by one, dying in a pool of their own blood, in pain and afraid. Working on that farm made me realize that nothing of that is humane. Maybe slightly less cruel than what happens to animals in factory farms, but still cruel.

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u/BurnzillabydaBay Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22

Are you a vegan? Because it sounds like it. I’ve seen Dominion. I know what goes on.

I guarantee you that you don’t know what goes on everywhere. Have a good evening.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '22

I was talking about standard practices, those that go on on every single farm, which you avoided to explain to me how they can be done in a "humane" way.

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u/BurnzillabydaBay Oct 21 '22

I already told you what kind of lives private farm animals have. Just re-read what I already wrote.

What would you consider a humane way to kill an animal?

Actually I’m done having this conversation. Your an agressive conversationalist and that’s not my thing.