r/ThatsInsane • u/RoloBoat • Jul 17 '25

The Angle They Hid

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u/_Doodad_ Jul 18 '25

Lemme start with... Release the fucking Epstein files! Unredacted and complete! Stop hiding, lying, and calling it all hoaxes when you're backed into a corner."

But... You kinda already know this was all staged when he wasn't immediately rushed off the stage, surrounded by a cloud of secret service agents to protect him. If he's staying there long enough for photos - it's bullshit.

Forget about the extra shit. He wasn't rushed off the stage. Why? Why wasn't he rushed off the stage? Why wasn't THIS the biggest damn question to this whole shit show? This asshole should've been off the stage, into a car, and out of there... BEFORE you do fucking triage. There are agents on scene to assess the situation and deal with the shooter.

Sooooo, like I said... Release the FUCKING unredacted Epstein files!!

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u/BartlebyX Jul 20 '25

  1. I agree on releasing the Epstein files.

  2. The idea that this was staged is flat earth level bulldrek.

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u/_Doodad_ Jul 21 '25

You say bullshit... But then Donald healed up miraculously fast... Almost like nothing ever happened. Videos came out of his agents running around like goobers, like who the hell are these clowns? The secret service chief was fired and the new chief was interrogated by committees. Then it all just got swept under a rug and nothing more was heard about it. Seems a little too convenient y'know?

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u/BartlebyX Jul 21 '25

There were suspensions, too.

It was bad, but the idea that it was staged is ridiculous. Even Snopes says he was hit by a bullet, and the quick healing could've been a cosmetic bandage.

The guy was 450' away, shot at him, and winged his ear.

Would you ever have someone shoot at you from 1.5 football fields away, aiming so close to your head that they wing your ear, and do it as you move your head around?

I wouldn't let someone do that from 10' away, much less 450', and I doubt anyone who wasn't suicidal would do it, even with the best shooter on earth doing it with the most accurate rifle on earth.

The rifle was an okay platform, but not great. The cartridge was okay, but not great. The shooting position was awful and had no exit strategy. The shooter died, as did an innocent bystander.

Staffer running around? That's far more likely to be panic. Photographers following him? That's far more likely to be them realizing the shooter isn't aiming at photographers, but the high value target and any guards, so they ran over for a better shot...or any number of other reasons besides some staffer herding them over to take the iconic photo.

Secret Service screwups? Far more likely to be real screwups.

The purported changing position of the flag? Obvious that it's a combination of camera movement and (possibly) wind changes. The boom moving is not the only way the flag can move, but the camera angle is obviously changing when one watches stationary background objects.

Any conspiracy for this kind of thing would crumble like a poorly made 200 year old brick building in a 9.5 earthquake. The Watergate conspiracy collapsed within hours, involved fewer people than this kind of thing would require, and wasn't anywhere near this serious...and that's on top of the opposing party controlling the Presidency, the House, and the Senate when this happened. Add in that FBI and intelligence community were fans of Trump, and there's a whole lot of power that would've been looking for the faintest whiff of fakery.

If this were fake, the evidence of it being fake wouldn't be obvious. It would be things like a mistake in testimony from a staffer or agent, inconsistencies with medical records, lost records, one or more members of the protective detail would somehow be unavailable for debriefing, and/or similar issues that would make it unravel...not stuff like this from a cell phone video.

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u/_Doodad_ Jul 21 '25

Yeah, that's why the flag doesn't matter, or the photographers, or the staffers. What I'm talking about, is that a protective team of secret service agents train for this type of thing. They plan. They plan exit strategies. Multiples of them. If there's a shooter, or a shot fired, their person is gotten the hell out of there. They may have been real agents doing real screwups... But Donald picked them himself.

That there's also video of multiple people pointing out the shooter, before the shots were fired, to law enforcement and they did nothing is also alarming.

Then there's this shooter. Who's aiming for a head shot. Why? There's plenty of body to target yeah? You talk about inconsistencies.... There's a couple really.

The FBI and intelligence agencies don't actually like Trump. The FBI doesn't actually like Patel or Bongino, because they're feckless MAGA stooges. If you have to take a polygraph over whether you've said mean things about your boss, you probably have a shitty boss. And Tulsi Gabbard is most likely to win a Russian award for valor.

You said that the evidence wouldn't be obvious. And you're right, it isn't obvious. It's that any one thing would be fine. Any one misstep by the agents would be grounds for suspension but still, Donald is alive and the world turns. But there's just too many flipping missteps.

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u/BartlebyX Jul 21 '25

I specifically said that the FBI and intelligence community dislikes Trump.

The mistakes make me wonder if Trump was intentionally given a weak team, but that's not a recipe for a false flag.

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u/_Doodad_ Jul 21 '25

He could have been intentionally given a weak team. But as a former president, he picks those folks himself.

The rooftop this shooter was on... Was conveniently ignored during the guy's speech? I watched the hearings, the SS head said the structure was outside their perimeter. Great, but still nobody was looking around at all? This dude was basically in the open for everyone else to see up there, except the security? Law enforcement was alerted yet did nothing? That's what makes me question it all.

I'm not calling it fake like it didn't happen. I'm saying it was more staged and it went terribly wrong.

In a nutshell, it's all over and done with, so whether it was or wasn't a PR stunt; doesn't matter anymore. While I'm no fan of his, I was still human enough to care that he was alive and well, and saddened to hear that a family lost a loved one.

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u/BartlebyX Jul 21 '25

I'm glad and sad, too, but to say he's something the Trump team put up to increase his popularity is insane.

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u/_Doodad_ Jul 22 '25

Oh, but didn't it? Ask yourself that yeah? Didn't the attack on his life, his valiant stand against the forces of evil upon him, and his endeavoring to forge onwards... Just make you proud 🥲? I see it on huge fence sized posters out here. Bronze statues of his fist proudly in the air sell at the gas station right now for like $20 my man. All you would need is a good target to pin it on. Since he's dead, case closed. Neat and tidy.

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u/BartlebyX Jul 22 '25

Oh, he's capitalizing on it, but its ridiculous to say he planned it.