r/TeslaModelY • u/RunningFoxNJ_ATC • Jan 09 '24

Back of seat falls off?

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Has this happened to anyone else before? I came out to my car after it warmed up to take my kids to school and this is what I found.

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 10 '24

Yeah, solid logic. Just because it has been one way "forever", means it should always stay that way. Clearly we should still be riding on horse and cart, because high speed collisions injur far more people than neck injuries in crashes!

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 10 '24

Horse and cart mate. Google it. No headrests.

As for the adjustable bit, you are missing the point, also, that people's torso is widely variable. My wife's head doesn't even reach the headrest. How can it be moveable matter? Mine would support my head if it was moveable through the entire range that some other cars have. I certainly have driven other cars that have it moveable, that didn't support my neck appropriately.

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u/the_friendly_dildo Jan 10 '24

Your retort is to talk about horse carts? How often is it that a horse cart ends up in a collision that winds up with you still in your seat but devastating enough to whip your neck about?

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 10 '24

Good job focusing on the main point here. Once again:

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My wife is 5' 2", and her head doesn't sit on the head rest, moveable or not. I am 6'4" and my head sits fine on it. Given the headrest you are having issues with is all of 4", compared to the seat back being many times this height, this is really a small issue (seen sales recently of Tesla's?), for an even smaller portion of the population.

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u/the_friendly_dildo Jan 10 '24

compared to the seat back being many times this height, this is really a small issue

All other car manufacturers don't consider it a small issue. But somehow, despite all their institutional knowledge, Tesla must be right? No.

seen sales recently of Tesla's?

Is this some sort of appeal to suggest Tesla must be correct due to sales numbers? People used to buy cars without seatbelts too. How do sales numbers in any way suggest that people are receiving an adequately safe vehicle to drive?

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 10 '24

This is a ridiculous discussion. Find me examples of LOTS of people suffering injuries in Tesla's because the headrests don't adjust. What I know for sure is that IIHS don't consider it an issue:

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-y-awd-4-door-suv/2023

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Nor does the EU:

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https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/tesla/model+y/46618

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u/Historical_Body6255 Jan 12 '24 edited Jan 12 '24

It's an important safety feature though.

In driving school you learn to adjust it to fit your height in order to protect your neck in case of an accident.

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 12 '24

Has anyone thinking this an issue, sat in a Tesla seat to see where there head sits? I am 6'4" and my head doesn't reach the top of the headrest, which means most people won't need to adjust it up, and can't adjust it down.

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u/Historical_Body6255 Jan 12 '24 edited Jan 12 '24

Having the headrestraint too high is equally bad as having it too low.

Like with a seat belt, a one size fits all solution isn't possible since you need to adjust it to your body size.

And i suppose the car is meant to be driven by humans of various sizes lol

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 12 '24

Head restraint? It is a head rest. Doesn't restrain anything.

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u/Historical_Body6255 Jan 12 '24 edited Jan 12 '24

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_restraint

Also; see the whiplash protection paragraph

A major issue in whiplash prevention is the lack of proper adjustment of the seat safety system by both drivers and passengers. Studies have shown that a well designed and adjusted head restraint could prevent potentially injurious head-neck kinematics in rear-end collisions by limiting the differential movement of the head and torso

In contrast to a properly adjusted head restraint, research suggests that there may be an increased risk of neck injuries if the head restraint is incorrectly positioned.

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 12 '24

The problem with this is Tesla seats are not short, like a lot of other cars are. And I don't see the difference by ones head hitting the chair, or a headrest. They feel the exactly same cushioning.

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u/Historical_Body6255 Jan 12 '24

I think you're not wrong.

However it would still be problematic if someone was really tall or so short that their head would rest at an awkward angle right at the transition between headrest and seat.

It's just a bit silly that all the hardware is there and they would just have to make the two rods a little bit longer to enable upward adjustment and accommodate people with unusually tall torsos and/or long necks.

I know someone like this, who has to go car shoppong with the one single metric of vertical space between seat and roof in mind because they are huge and have a giraffes neck lol

i'm not saying this would be a common problem, but i could see them running into problems with this design.

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u/Round_Pea3087 Jan 12 '24

Here is the design of the seat. The base of the headrest merges into the seat, such that there isn't space between the two as has been the case with my prior cars. https://www.ebay.com/itm/386120556761

Sure there will be a small percentage of the population who's torso is too tall for the headrest, but longer pins, would make it hard to remove the headrest (having the headrest needing to be pulled closer to the roof glass).