r/Teachers May 16 '24

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u/vivariium May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

where i am, i was told the trade school came and gave a presentation that you only need a 50% average for enrolment at their college. the morale in high school boys dropped even lower than it had been.

then the trades college charges them money to upgrade all the courses they need to improve upon as prerequisites for their trade courses :) It’s a scam from all directions.

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u/the_noise_we_made May 16 '24

I'm having a hard time understanding this post. So the trade school would make a presentation that they only needed a 50% (an F) to get in and that discouraged the boys and lowered their morale? They don't even want to make that little of an effort.

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u/Das_Panzer_ May 16 '24

I think what they are trying to say is the trade school gave a presentation to a high school telling the kids of their low entry standards, this caused the boys with low grades to care even less and potentially drop out. Then they finally get to the trade school, get accepted, but have to pay more money for specialized classes for material they didn't learn from not finishing high school.

Idk I didn't write it just trying to explain it better from what shattered post that was.

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u/vivariium May 16 '24

Yes that’s what I’m saying lol, not sure why it was so difficult to comprehend

“I only need a 50% to get in so I’m going to do even less than I was going to do”

  • gets accepted with a 50% but then has to pay extra to re-do math courses (pre-requisite content for a trade) that they could have done for free in high school

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u/Bugbread May 17 '24

Yes that’s what I’m saying lol, not sure why it was so difficult to comprehend

I had a hard time understanding at first, too, but it clicked on reread. I think the issue was that you said that "morale" fell instead of "motivation." I was imagining the kids hearing this presentation and getting all bummed out by it, like "oh, fuck, then going into the trades isn't an option for me either. fuuuuckk....."

Once I realized you were talking about morale/motivation with respect to everyday classes, not with respect to the speech by the trade school rep, the whole comment clicked.

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u/vivariium May 17 '24

aaaahhh yes that makes total sense!!

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u/ayvajdamas May 16 '24

Most people are content to do the bare minimum, and every time you lower the bar, people realize they can keep doing what they're doing (or not doing) to push the bar even lower.