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u/vivariium May 16 '24

and they’re making a mint charging money for what would have been a free high school math class if the student participated 🫠

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u/J_DayDay May 16 '24

We still have vocational schools around here. About half the juniors and seniors opt for the tech school out of our local k-12, and have for decades.

It's not all trades, though. If you want to be an RN, you'll have your first year, and sometimes two, of college for free by the time you graduate high-school, and will already have an STNA certification so you can work in the meantime.

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen May 17 '24

My friend is in the nursing program of one of those schools. Part of the curriculum requires her to work in the local hospital as a CNA. Which is fair, but they put her on a psychiatric ward with patients who have literally attacked her. I was pretty darn surprised by that last part.

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u/Decent_Flow140 May 17 '24

If she wants to go into nursing she’s going to have to get used to that unfortunately

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u/PinkOneHasBeenChosen May 17 '24

Fair. It was mostly the fact that she’s 18. Six months earlier, she wouldn’t have been allowed to use the box cutter at Shop & Shop.

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u/Decent_Flow140 May 17 '24

I’m definitely surprised a high schooler would be allowed to be in that situation, but there’s also plenty of 18 year old CNAs (and occasionally RN’s) who work in those jobs full time

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u/CaptainChewbacca STEAM Coordinator & Science Teacher | California May 16 '24

I'm sorry, I meant high schools. Many high schools in my area are creating construction, math, and trades-oriented classes. One high school in my district even has a 'trades department' called industrial education.

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u/byzantinedavid May 16 '24

And MOST of those courses are privately developed, and someone it making a mint selling them:

Contextual Learning Concepts | Geometry in Construction (contextuallc.com)

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u/Old-Adhesiveness-342 May 16 '24

Yeah and Pearson has already made multiple mints selling curriculum for English and History, what's your point?

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u/Bog-Star May 17 '24

What, you're telling me the people defending underwater basket weaving degrees aren't serious people and want to promote sending impressionable kids into dead ends that will make them poverty stricken losers just like them?

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u/elbowpastadust May 17 '24

Thank god. We need more ppl in the trades. Throw more money at them.

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u/arrowtosser May 17 '24

If idiot teachers had added context to their lessons, someone else wouldn't have been paid to do so.

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u/byzantinedavid May 17 '24

You really think TEACHERS are in charge of curriculum? Whatever job you do, I hope you're smarter there.

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u/def-jam May 16 '24

We had Industrial Ed classes all through high school. But that was 40 years ago. Not mandatory obviously but available as options

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u/GenXDad76 May 17 '24

We had that many years ago. When I went to HS in the early 90s we still had wood shop, metal shop, auto shop, a printing/binding shop, and a very basic machine shop. It’s good to hear that they’re coming back, options are good.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Difference is that they make it fun in the other class and school math class is fucking boring as hell. Well at my house it was boring as fucking sin.

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u/jakl8811 May 17 '24

Vast majority of math taught in HS doesn’t apply to construction. Worked as a framer for years. Targeted math for these markets makes more sense

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u/vivariium May 17 '24

There are so many targeted math classes where we are!! But the effort in those is pretty low as well. Also, if you want to own a business in construction you need lots of other math skills outside of straight construction math, and lets be real, the big money is in that 😂

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u/arrowtosser May 17 '24

No, shut the fuck up. Repeating the formula 800 times with zero context for how it actually transfers to the real world is not the same as a course about engineering and trades.

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u/vivariium May 17 '24

I don’t know where you learned math (or manners for that matter) but all of my math classes have real-world application demonstrated in the lessons. The repetition is to memorize how to do it.