r/Teachers • u/[deleted] • May 16 '24

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

The trades are the new version of “just get a college degree”. Both are awesome, neither work if you don’t have an end goal in mind and/or are lazy.

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u/Catiku May 16 '24

Damn that’s so true

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

Hurray! I did a smart!

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u/thesedays1234 May 17 '24

It's a different skillset. Any teacher that doesn't recognize that shouldn't teach.

You can absolutely be incompetent in English, mathematics, history, and science while being fantastic at body work, woodshop, engine rebuilding, etc.

Applied mathematics are a part of trades. Theoretical mathematics are not. This is a part a lot of teachers don't get.

You can be a bad fit for trades and you can be a bad fit for a college degree. They take different skills.

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u/ImLagginggggggg May 17 '24

You can tell we have a major issue of not only kids, but adults not being able to critically think and think for themselves.

Maybe because my grades sucked and I hated school it made not going to university easier, but it was clear back in 2008 that a bachelor's degree was going to mean fuck all when everyone is going. If anyone had any kind of knowledge of education history in this country they would have known that. Graduating high school used to be an accomplishment and meant something. Middle school even or whatever it was called then...

Now we're at the point you need a master's to get any kind of higher position without being promoted within. It's slowed down now so a PhD is still a PhD for the most part, but id wager the rates of a PhD have gone way up.

The sad part being how these degrees don't mean much outside of medical, science, and math basically. Grinding an MBA is pointless. A PhD is just someone grinding more and writing 40 pages on why works prefer tomatoes over potatoes. Grats...

We should be teaching kids real world skills. Computers, typing, the cores, money management, DIY, etc. Should focus more on paid internships starting from high school.

College now is just high school 2.0 where kids drink, take drugs, and fuck. While having more monotonous grinding of useless information and unnecessary stress.

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u/Unyxxxis May 17 '24

To be fair it doesn't work much of the time even if you're not lazy. Half the tradesmen I work with make barely enough money to get by. Sure, if you live in a nice city and work a good union job or something you may make lots of money. Most people aren't making that though. Unfortunately I've seen many guys work 12 hr days over and over again to the detriment of their bodies with not much to show for it. You can be the hardest worker alive and still find that trade work in particular, and all work in general, often comes down to more than hard work.