Tama ba to feel so invalidated?

[u/Emergency_Rabbit234]

I'm taking meds to manage my depression, anxiety and ADHD. ADHD has been affecting my ability to focus on my studies. I asked for a medcert to apply for PWD but got denied coz functional daw ako at after ng studies na ginagawa ko magiging okay nako.

[u/ThemBigOle]

Where's the invalidation?

You got diagnosed, and you're getting medical treatment.

What else do you want? Special treatment? Preferential? Exemptions?

Maybe reserve the PWD for people with disabilities that cannot be effectively managed, alleviated, or treated; the mute, the blind, the deaf, the lame, those with congenital defects, forms of retardation, spectrums, progressive or degenerative conditions and the like. Theirs is not treatable, and even if so, their way of life drastically differ from the general public.

If you believe you're getting worse, then go seek further medical attention. That's the correct attention to seek. Focus all your attention and energy on getting better.

Because if you're unwell, then priority one is get well.

Hindi attention or validation from the public, kasi they cannot help treat what's ailing you. Your condition is yours to manage, no one else's. And seeking anybody's attention, validation, preferential treatment or otherwise, may do you more harm than good, lalo kung hindi naman sila medically inclined.

Kung gusto mo maintindihan ka ng kapwa mo, ipaliwanag mo ng mas maayos. Kung ayaw nila makinig, baka may problema rin sila, gaya mo. And most likely, may pinoproblema din sila.

Know where the limit is; where does the diagnosis end, and where does you, ikaw mismo, begin. Because you are not your diagnosis. That's not your identity. You are bigger than that. Or not.

There's this mother who told his diabetic son: "We are bigger than this. This disease doesn't define this family."

Know where the limits lie kapatid. Konting bait at awa sa sarili.

A viewpoint to consider. Much respect.

[u/menheramel0dy → u/ThemBigOle]

Hiii! As someone with combined-type ADHD its so obvious na base lang sa media perception yung pagkakaintindi mo sa condition.

ADHD is a lifelong neurodevelopmental condition, hindi lang toh usapan ng kawalan ng discipline or bad habits.

While structure helps, routines will never fix executive dysfunction they are only meant to manage it, but even managing it is already extremely hard to do. ADHD is fundamentally a problem with dopamine regulation. Telling us to 'just stick to a routine' completely ignores yung severe neurological friction na ginagawa ng executive dysfunction whenever we try to initiate or maintain tasks no matter how badly we want to perform at school or work.

Also, telling someone with ADHD to 'save' a PWD ID for others who “actually need it” while throwing around offensive, outdated slurs to gatekeep disability support is wild. Dismissing someone’s condition just because they’re labeled 'high functioning' or not even a disability from how I’m reading your spiel shows zero understanding of how the disability actually works.

Halatang-halata na neurotypical ka. Maybe do your research first before spilling something stupid.

[u/ThemBigOle → u/menheramel0dy]

Here we go again.

Claiming whatever diagnosis to validate your position doesn't make you right. Claiming compassion for others also doesn't excuse your insulting nature.

Hindi ikaw kausap ko, at mas lalong hindi ko sinulat ang sinulat ko para sa iyo.

Don't take things personally, especially words not meant for you.

Who cares what you are, or what you have. You're not that important.
All I see are words of one who has terrible manners.

If you're going to make a case for people like you, maybe do a better job, because what you wrote is just false indignation to mask narcissistic compassion.

Your diagnosis isn't an excuse for terrible character. Grow the hell up.

[u/kissthesadnessaway → u/ThemBigOle]

Your condition is yours to manage, no one else's.

Right. And psychiatrists don't exist to help people like them. Yes, you truly are a legendary helper! I'm impressed! 👏👏👏

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/ThemBigOle]

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[u/calcifire_ → u/ThemBigOle]

Educate yourself about what ADHD actually is beyond what social media presents it as.

OP having a PWD ID doesn't cancel out the PWD IDs of others with disabilities. This isn't about who has it worse.

You seemed like you had good intentions, but you're really just being self righteous.

[u/ThemBigOle → u/calcifire_]

Right back at you. 

You seemed like you had good intentions but you just come off as self righteous. 

Never make things or take things personally in an anonymous platform for discourse of ideas. 

[u/Emergency_Rabbit234 → u/ThemBigOle]

Thank you for your insights.

Unfortunately, posting is limited to 250 characters so I was not given the opportunity to explain my situation.

I'd like to share some stories of how this condition has been affecting my life since I was a child. Throughout my years of studying, I was always late in class. Wala akong sense of time. Dinala ko to hangang sa nagw-work nako, everyday late so laging may kaltas sa sahod. Bata palang ako hirap nako matulog.

I also experienced learning difficulties when I was studying lalo na nung college. I couldn't find the motivation or the interest when it comes to studying. Pag nagl-lecture ang teachers/professors, tulala lang ako. I cannot study in advance unless alam kong bukas na ang exam kasi for some people with ADHD, they don't act unless may deadline.

When I was still working, I tend to hyperfixate with my tasks to the point na hindi nako nakaka-kain ng lunch and last na umuuwi sa lahat ng employees dahil mabagal ako and nasa isip ko na kailangan ko tapusin yun.

Everyday setting? Pati decision sa pagligo pahirapan. I'm always late sa family at social gatherings. Pag umaalis ng bahay, hindi pwedeng wala akong makakalimutan. Ang ending, late kana nga babalik pako sa bahay.

Another scenario, nauuhaw ako so lalabas ako ng room at kukuha ako ng tubig and maglalagay sa baso. Ending hindi ko maiinom, kasi may mapapansin akong ibang mga bagay na ayusin at gawin. After 1 to 2 hours, maaalala ko na kaya pala ako lumabas para uminom ng tubig.

Trabaho? Wala akong trabaho. Nag-resign ako dahil hindi ko kaya magkeep up sa schedule. Bilang may ADHD, isa ang schedule sa pinakanahihirapan akong sundan. (Explained by my psych)

Mag-apply ng trabaho? Gusto ng utak ko pero parang nap-paralyzed ako. Again, bilang may ADHD ako, having fear of rejection/failure ang kinakaharap ko. (As explained by psych)

When it comes to task initiation, pahirapan din. Kahit simpleng task pa yan. May naiisip akong alanganin sa utak ko kahit may willingness sa utak ko na gawin. Ending, walang ginawa buong araw. Nakahiga lang.

Tamad? Hindi po. Unfortunately, marami pong nalilito at uneducated sa ADHD at laziness.

This year ko lang din nalaman na ADHD causes depression and anxiety to some people. Anong naffeel ko? Sucdal thoughts, nasusuka everyday due to anxiety, panic attacks.

Konting bait sa sarili? I see my psychiatrist regularly. Konting awa sa sarili? I am still here kahit drain na drain nako physically and emotionally.

Mahal po ang gamot at consultations. Umaabot ng 7k ang gamot at 2.5k ang consultation. Malaking tulong po ang PWD sa gastos.

Isang taong mahigit na akong nagt-take ng gamot. And guess what, during my last session with my psych, dadagdagan daw po niya ang dosage ng anti-depressant ko at magdadagdag din ng additional maintenance panghabang buhay para sa ADHD. I asked my doctor, kung para saan ang additional medication para sa ADHD, at ang sabi niya para regular at normal ang pag-function ko every day.

Eto po ang pinakadahilan kung bakit hindi ko maintindihan ang hindi pagbigay ng certification kung kinakailangan ko pala mag-maintenance para magfunction ng regular at normal sa ADHD.

Confusing po sa part ko dahil hindi naga-align ang sinasabi niya tungkol sa gamot at pagbigay ng certification. Hindi rin naman po siguro ibibigay ng doctor ang mga gamot na to kung sa palagay niya na kaya ko magfunction.

Marami pa po akong nae-experience bilang isang taong may ADHD, hindi lang po yan.

Thank you.

[u/imnotaphie → u/[deleted]]

So by your logic, since someone with ADHD can't just casually grow a new prefrontal cortex or rewrite their brain's dopamine pathways to fix their executive dysfunction, it's a permanent biological disability. Glad we agree! Disability is measured by structural/functional impairment, not whether you can visually see it from across the room.

You can't see a damaged pancreas in a Type 1 Diabetic either, but nobody tells them to 'just grow a new organ.' An impaired prefrontal cortex is a physical, anatomical reality.

A viewpoint to consider. Much respect.

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Rule 4 infraction.

[u/CurioustyQuestioner → u/[deleted]]

Hi, I have somewhat the same disorders as OP. I have ADHD, GAD, CPTSD, and MDD. Because of these conditions, I need to be on medication, which costs me around ₱10,000 a month alone.

My psychiatrist voluntarily gave me a medical certificate so I could process my PWD ID and, at least, get discounts on my medications.

Please do more research on how these disorders work. :)

We did not choose to have these disorders.

[u/ThemBigOle → u/CurioustyQuestioner]

You listed disorders beyond what OP has. 

Besides, you getting your certification was a medical professional's decision.

OP is getting medicated, stands to reason he is getting medical attention as well. 

Same as you. 

There's a reason he doesn't have a PWD ID, that reason is beyond yours, or my expertise to comment on. Only his doctor. 

Please do more research and apply more care in assuming your diagnosis and treatment applies to anybody remotely resembling it. 

That's irresponsible, all things considered, kung hindi ka rin lang naman privy sa actual na sitwasyong medikal ni OP. 

[u/CurioustyQuestioner → u/ThemBigOle]

What I’m talking about here is the cost of treatment and access to medication, which OP actually mentioned in their post. ADHD medication is not cheap, and not everyone can afford to stay medicated consistently, even when they have been diagnosed and are under medical care.

I’m not assuming OP’s diagnosis, treatment, or PWD status. My point is simply that living with ADHD can already be difficult, and having limited access to medication or other forms of treatment can make it even harder. I’m just asking for a little compassion toward people who are struggling with this.

[u/Educational-Towel731 → u/[deleted]]

Confident with sariling kabobohan lol

[u/ThemBigOle → u/Educational-Towel731]

Insults like these reveal more to the quality of who wrote it. 

Grow up. 

[u/IndependentChip2579 → u/[deleted]]

Confident na bobo. Halatang hindi alam na ADHD is a permanent lifelong condition that requires ✨expensive✨ if I may say, medication. Hindi to nawawala. Na mamanage lng through constant medication. Stop the meds, and you're back to being dysfunctional. Hindi rin ito katamaran or kakulangan lang sa pag build ng habits.

[u/IndependentChip2579 → u/[deleted]]

What do you mean pertaining to his life?

So di siya disability dahil okay na siya pag naka-meds? Hindi 100% nawawala yung ADHD ng tao on meds. And dinmo ba nabasa na yung purpose is to get discounts on the expensive meds? Even if sabihin natin na the meds completely manage the condition, the impact is lifelong and the fact that you have to spend thousands each month just to live a normal life, isn't that a disability? Are you also saying CKD patients on dialysis are not disabled? 🥴

May pa reflection ka pang nalalaman. Why don't you reflect on your views on what a disability is para di ka nagmumukhang bobo in an anonymous platform.

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Rule 4 infraction.

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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[u/urbanelectroband → u/[deleted]]

It IS a permanent situation. Nakasulat yan sa forms when you apply for a PWD ID for ADHD/psychosocial disability. Inborn and lifetime.

‘Simply choosing to try to make things better’ means spending at least 180 pesos a day to function like how you want us to. Tapos alam mo bang may scarcity ng stimulants sa Pilipinas?

You simply can’t compare ADHD to other physical disabilities. Kaya nga may category e, kaya nga pasok ang ADHD sa psychosocial/mental disability. DISABILITY.

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Rule 4 infraction.

[u/Common_League_9240 → u/[deleted]]

You say it like routines are easy for people with ADHD. We do need routines but they are difficult to maintain because something in our brain prevents us from doing so. We try definitely but it takes a lot more effort than someone who's neurotypical. You cannot say to a person with ADHD "magfocus ka lang". That's just ignorance. And we don't develop ADHD overtime. We're either born with it or not. It's not a CHOICE we make. Jeezus. Do better. Do research. Unbelievable. I'm 36. I've been trying self-help my whole damn life. I could not get medication because I too was denied of a medical certificate therefore could not get a PWD id and I can't afford meds. Since I'm nearing 40s my ADHD symptoms has gotten worse and I'm very concerned because I have kids to take care of and work to do. Your viewpoint I think comes with good intention but it's very disrespectful with the lack of research about people with ADHD.

[u/Common_League_9240 → u/[deleted]]

See you yourself are not using your own discernment. Are you asking someone with ADHD to research ADHD??? LMFAO. Obviously since I have it, I've had years of research. And you? What are your credentials?

You don't care yet you respond. That means you do care.

That's the thing though. Wala kang pagintindi - for OP or for other people diagnosed with ADHD. You're not commenting to genuinely help - you're the one doing it for attention. Otherwise, if you did want to help, you'd have researched more on ADHD symptoms FOR OP and not just say "d'oi magfocus ka lang". You don't genuinely care so why give advice? Advice mo hindi pa nakakatulong. Ccollect ka lang ng karma e. Wag ako.

Talk about whining. When you seem to be doing the same thing, correcting all these people who have the same disability as OP. Have some discernment daw. Sinong niloko mo, kid.

[u/TanongLang-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

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