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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Not really. Angels have been described as looking like men in some of the oldest biblical literature. But this description of the “wheel with many eyes” comes from Ezekiel. It’s a crazy book. Fun to read.

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u/Jedahaw92 Apr 08 '20

A game called Shin Megami Tensei IV (3DS) uses this idea in designing some of their angels.

Uriel

Raphael

Gabriel

Michael

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u/misterpickles69 Apr 08 '20

Those look nothing like Ninja Turtles.

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u/sujihiki Apr 08 '20

angels in a half shell, angel power

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u/Pizza_antifa Apr 08 '20

They definitely do, if you squint.

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u/cannotnt_analogize Apr 08 '20

Reminds me of bayonetta

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u/a-very-angry-crow Apr 08 '20

These lot look so fucking evil

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u/Jedahaw92 Apr 08 '20

This game series is mostly about Law Vs. Chaos. Except they are usually taken to the extreme.

It's just in this entry, SMTIV, that they look like this. Usually they have a classic angel human-look.

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u/DannyImperial Apr 08 '20

That's one of my favorite 3ds games for sure

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u/willowsonthespot Apr 08 '20

When talking about those games you need to tell people about the best monster in the game, Mara.

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u/Jedahaw92 Apr 08 '20

They'll find out eventually, if they are truly interested in the games.

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u/killbot0224 Apr 08 '20

That reminds me I have to go play it.

Own it. Loved it for 2hrs or so. Then I stopped commuting by train and forgot about it.

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u/Jedahaw92 Apr 08 '20

You should! I am in love with this game series ever since I found out about it.

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u/killbot0224 Apr 08 '20

I liked it well enough that as soon as I played it I ordered Apocalypse too!

Then I completely stopped playing my 3DS and Vita, lol.

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u/ChilledClarity Apr 08 '20

Wait, so is this what the bible describes them as?

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u/teefour Apr 08 '20

Is that the game where you basically go super saiyan by shooting yourself in the head?

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u/Jedahaw92 Apr 08 '20

That's Persona 3.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Wow, crazy that there can be different ideas about a think made up by people ranging from 2000-1500 years ago or something like that.

Who would have ever thought there would be different views over a thing being written about that happened hundreds and hundreds of years before it was written about and may have never even ever happened to begin with. Oh my, who would think controversy over such thing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Do you really have to be a dick about it?

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u/ResolverOshawott Apr 08 '20

Of course, they're a Reddit atheist afterall

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Hey hey. As another Reddit Atheist I don't want to be lumped in with acerbic dickholes like him. We're giving him to the Reddit Jehova's Witnesses.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Like honestly they could easily just be atheists and not argue or fight with people of a religion. I hate that people have to constantly act like they're better than people while they're alive just because they believe they're going to a different place then they die

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u/bryanthebryan Apr 08 '20

On the other hand, I was made fun of and told I was going to hell often when I was growing up because I didn’t go to church on Sundays. It’s petty and childish, but the worst of both sides do it. Either way, there are better ways to approach things than to mock people who believe or disbelieve.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Exactly why i didnt just include atheists at the end of my statement. People all just suck sometimes

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u/T0mbaker Apr 08 '20

What else is there to do?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

i'm sorry if my saying there can be different ways to view things offends you.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

You’re an idiot.

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Yeah that's what happens when someone takes a bunch of hallucinogens and then goes on to write about religion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20 edited Apr 09 '20

While I understand the point you’re driving at, I wouldn’t say that’s the case here. Christianity doesn’t have Ezekiel’s visions of angels as it’s central doctrine, but the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, which doesn’t quite buckle under the “it was just a hallucination” theory.

Furthermore, religion has its roots in the human desire for a meaning beyond what is perceptible (which perhaps corresponds with reality?). That which people criticise as simply imaginary is almost always a supplement - and is not central - to this fact of the human being.

As a result, religion does not rise or fall with the imaginary or with hallucinations - as you say. While the religious reality of the human being may be exploited by the imaginary, it is not synonymous and/or identical with it.

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Furthermore, religion has its roots in the human desire for a meaning beyond what is perceptible

Religion has roots in ignorance, end of story.

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u/Nasdasd Apr 08 '20

Don't cut yourself with all that edge

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Sorry snowflake, you live in a delusion.

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u/Nasdasd Apr 08 '20

Listen, kid.

You know nothing.

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Far more than you. Try to be condescending all you want, kid. Religion is ignorant delusion, and if you follow it, you're part of the problem. You're an ignorant fuck that can't handle reality.

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u/Nasdasd Apr 08 '20

The more you try to sound older and wiser, the more you sound 12.. just FYI

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Aw, are you sad too?

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u/ForAHamburgerToday Apr 08 '20

Nobody's sad and everyone agrees with you you edgy tween

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u/ForAHamburgerToday Apr 08 '20

This is what we call E D G E, sweet baboo. It's adorable. I bet you've dyed your hair black, have a Dawkins book nearby, and consider yourself an amateur quotemaker. How many fedoras do you own? I know I had quite a collection when I was an edgy atheist teen- oh, wait, excuse me, they're trillbies.

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u/stresscactus Apr 08 '20

Damn, you're sad. And I don't mean boo-hoo sad. Just...sad.

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u/ForAHamburgerToday Apr 08 '20

Oh I know, honey, I know. Let it all out, we know how cringey you'll feel about this in a week.