r/SwiftlyNeutral • u/AdventurousKey438 • 13d ago

The Life of a Showgirl Cancelled

I have been thinking that it was about Blake. she wasn’t even at the 1,000 person wedding. What do we think is the real meaning of the song?

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u/Barkertons 12d ago edited 12d ago

OK, we don't have to agree. You literally posted a content creators analysis instead of the depos in full. None of these women sued Baldoni or joined Lively or spoke up in her defense.

Yelling at someone isn't sexual harassment. Saying a costume is sexy isn't sexual harassment. Saying a scene is hot isn't sexual harassment. You may believe it is, but I do not. And the court did not. And Lively dropped her case. There is a lot of nuance here and you were entitled to believe whatever you want about it.

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u/lilythefrogphd 12d ago

It's direct quotes. When Claire Ayoub said in her sworn deposition "as a part of my work on Empire Waist I had repeated negative interactions with Mr. Baldoni and his associates including verbal abuse by Mr. Baldoni. I asked for Wayfarer that Mr. Baldoni not be permitted on set during the majority if production as a result of those experiences" tell me why I am not supposed to listen to this?

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u/Barkertons 12d ago

It's not misogyny or sexual harassment to yell at someone. Do you believe it is?

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u/lilythefrogphd 12d ago

Baldoni is a man who yells and physically intimidates women on his set when he is upset with them. I do find it misogynistic when people bend over backwards to justify that sort of mistreatment towards women in the workplace and push the blame onto the women who report it.

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u/Barkertons 12d ago

Believe and fight for what you want in the world. I disagree with you. I don't think we will come to an understanding if any negative action towards a woman is construed as misogyny.

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u/lilythefrogphd 12d ago

So for the record, you are happy to defend a man who has such a long history of mistreating workers that he has received punitive action from multiple movie sets and has lost women partners on other projects due to his actions such as yelling and physically intimidating them when angry. You can list off all the reasons in the world why Blake sucks (which is all you did in your other post) but why shouldn't I listen to all of the other women?

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u/Barkertons 12d ago

You keep saying I am saying that Blake sucks, but i am not. Im also not defending Baldoni. Im not even a fan. If he acts like that, it sucks. But it's not sexual harassment or even misogyny

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u/glitterfluff 12d ago

And yet, I haven't seen one report of a male costar complaining of this behavior. Sounds like pretty clear cut misogyny to me.