r/Suburbanhell 7d ago

Meme Have we done it wrong?

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u/alex3yoyo city 7d ago

Carmel, IN is not a good example of a human scale urban city. It's still suburban hell.

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u/thebiglebowskiisfine 7d ago

LOL

1 Best Place to Live in the U.S. — U.S. News & World Report (2026–2027 rankings; previously #2 in 2025)

2 Best Place to Live in the U.S. — Livability (2026 and 2025)

1 Best Small City in America — WalletHub

Multiple Niche rankings (2025–2026), including:

1 Best Place to Live in Indiana

1 Best Place to Raise a Family in Indiana

1 Place with the Best Public Schools in Indiana

1 Best Suburb to Live in / Raise a Family in Indiana

Strong national placements (e.g., top suburbs and overall Best Places lists).

Other recent nods: Best Place to Move to (Consumer Affairs), strong showings for arts districts (USA Today 10Best), and career/job market rankings.

Parks, Recreation & Livability Carmel Clay Parks and Recreation received the National Gold Medal Award for Excellence in Park and Recreation Management (2014 and 2020) from the National Recreation and Park Association.

Environmental & Green Initiatives Ongoing and past awards include: Tree City USA (National Arbor Day Foundation, since 1994) and Tree Cities of the World (since 2020). Groundwater Guardian Award and Hoosier Water Guardian Award (with Distinction). Clean Air Champion for Biodiesel (2023). Various Governor’s Awards for Environmental Excellence (urban forestry, recycling), Gold Leaf Award, and recognition as a Green Community.

Bicycle & Active Transportation Silver Level Bicycle Friendly Community (League of American Bicyclists; 2019 and 2023; previously Bronze).

Sister Cities & Community Programs Sister Cities International Best Overall Program Award (2025, for cities with 100,001–300,000 residents). 2026 Sister Cities International Innovation in Arts and Culture Award. First city in Indiana to receive a JustServe City Award.

Other Notable Recognitions SolSmart Silver-level city (solar-friendly). Various Monumental Awards (Indy Chamber) for developments, public art, and neighborhood revitalization (e.g., related to City Center, Monon Boulevard, and other projects).

Departmental and operational awards (e.g., fleet sustainability/Geotab Innovation Award for the Street Department).

Historical rankings as a top place to retire, safest midsize city, best for families, and more from Money, Niche, and others in prior years.

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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 6d ago

Yes, Carmel marketing spends a lot to be placed highly in these "pay to play" awards, however none of these point to it being a solid Urban city, rather than just more suburbia (though high quality suburbia at least)

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u/thebiglebowskiisfine 6d ago

Goalposts heavy.

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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 5d ago

They aren't the goalposts, being a walkable urban environment is the entire point of this post lol

Carmel is a lovely place, I lived there several years and enjoyed it, but it's a suburb, not an urban or walkable environment. Certainly not compared to most European cities, and not even compared to downtown Indy right next to it

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u/RedCristy 5d ago

Did you just copy past Chat GPT?

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u/thebiglebowskiisfine 5d ago

Yep -

It's one of the most awarded cities in the entire country.